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the worst wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:34 pm One more thing I'll share because I think most if not all of us realise it. If we work under two very likely assumptions:
- that there are three group scum (at a design level, highly likely; at most, there may be a traitor which we can handle lately)
- that scum doesn't have a strongman/strongwilled ability

then mathblade now has the ability to clear one player per night by loosely proving that they didn't do the night kill due to being blocked.

Wam wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:44 pm No cc.

On the strongman based on what I have seen I doubt mafia have an every night strong man. Maybe a x shot one or with weird usuage conditions

Seven wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:48 pm @moody can you confirm that you don't cc any part of jedi's role?

the worst wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:57 pm does anyone's role have the potential to create a private chat between living players? just yes/no pls x

moody7277 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:35 pm

MathBlade wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:19 pm

moody7277 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:18 pm Okay, so MB is confirmed on 2 roleblocks. I am feeling a bit more charitable towards him now. PoE seems to be cycling WMU and worst to the bottom.

Worst should not be in your PoE.

Seven wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:23 pm I'd argue that WMU shouldn't be in the PoE.

So for you, the probably last scum is in {me, Madge, wam}? That is rather cross-grained with what my sense of the game has been so far.

the worst wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:36 pm would also prefer wmu. I need to read their EOD1 as seven suggested.

I have town as {tw > Jedi > Madge > Seven > MBlade} - would be keen for moody to check in, but I don't really townread them so much as I dig what I've seen of their role.

Still think Wam is p towny by play but this read is a bit more surface level and we can sort that out.

MathBlade wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:44 pm

the worst wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:34 pm One more thing I'll share because I think most if not all of us realise it. If we work under two very likely assumptions:
- that there are three group scum (at a design level, highly likely; at most, there may be a traitor which we can handle lately)
- that scum doesn't have a strongman/strongwilled ability

then mathblade now has the ability to clear one player per night by loosely proving that they didn't do the night kill due to being blocked.

That’s what I said before. WMU seems most likely but I will likely vote whoever Seven does to prevent blocking Seven again as long as it’s not in the trio and will announce my block before I die.

MathBlade wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:42 pm

xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:51 pm Vote Sabrar

This only happened AFTER the wagon picked up steam. If WakeMeUp votes Jedi it’s sus. If they don’t vote it’s sus. So best thing of a shitty place is theater. That’s not enough for me.

the worst wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:21 pm

SuperJedi224 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:24 pm Math's couple posts before his last one threw some flags, but if the most recent one is accurate that might clear it up a little

Seven wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:32 pm Jedi, looks like you're being eliminated. What's your role?

Town heavy horses, have a passive ability that changes every odd-numbered day (half affect voting while the other half affect day length, currently it's all players loved) and am supposed to get a non-player Neighbor days 3 through 6

Sorry one more: if anyone can cc any of this - or if anyone can do any part of it at all with their role - please claim that asap

MathBlade wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:22 am Would love it if people stopped focusing on defense and who is scum or list PoEs or something.

MathBlade wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:22 am Would love it if people stopped focusing on defense and who is scum or list PoEs or something.

xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:28 am Vote Wam

Wam wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:13 am

xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:28 am Vote Wam

Why do I vote for sabrar when I did day 1 as scum?

madge wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:50 am I laid it out pretty quick, I should probably lay it out here:

{madge}
{jedi}
{the worst}
{seven}
{wam}
{mathblade > moody > WMU}

As in, you are in the same level of scumminess as the other two, just at the bottom of the pile.

The reason you're at the bottom is the same reason I read marklin/suzaku as scum: I kind of forget you exist, and that's the sort of thing scum likes to do, hide in plain sight. if that makes sense?

You're not in the same category of obvscum as others. In fact I'm tempted to yeet mathblade just because IME RBers are 75%+ scum (number is from my butt) and the vote power could be really dangerous in lategame especially if it doesn't expire.

We need to be calm. We've probably only got one scum to find, we just have to use mechanics to solve it.

Our biggest fear would be if scum manages to slide through our fingers through using a very powerful power (imagine is Sabrar was the last scum left, he could just suddenly kill 2 people in one night out of left field and really mess with us! we are SCREWED if scum has a way to kill two people in one night).

Scum!Mathblade means that 1v3 is automatic scum win, and we have 8 now, so we have two eliminations if mathblade is scum. If mathblade is town, we have 3 eliminations as scum will have to go through the NL at 3v1 and then convince town at 2v1. To me that makes the risk of scum!mathblade really scary on its own. Not sure if it's enough to yeet him today.

I am hoping to gather some info from eliminated townies that will give me a better idea of my best course of action but these things take time.

(I think all my numbers above should be good but do let me know if I messed up. It's been a long time since I've played but I'm 90% sure that at 3v1 you NL?)

Wam wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:03 pm Because I said I would shoot whoever was leading the votes which was morgan I was giving us a 2nd elimination .

I also explained why I thought morgan was scum.