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boomfrog wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 2:49 pm Heury's reads -

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heuristically_alone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:49 am Ahippo – has been very transparent about lack of strong reads and confusion. Also they don’t feel defensive when being questioned or accused which I feel is more natural for town. That coupled with the early role claim and transparency of how it would be used (random number generator). I am concerned with the lack of scum hunting. UPDATE: Since Sabrar confirmed receiving motivator action then I’m assuming at this point ahippo is cleared town (much more likely) or sabrar and ahippo are scum mates (much less likely). If Sabrar flips scum, ahippo is still likely town

EGW- Scum hunting and taking care to dissect others posts and follow up with plenty of questions. They are open to discussions and willing to adapt their reads. Flipping Mak their scummiest read D1 is evidence evolving suspicions and in general his reads all seem to be uninfluenced by other players. EGW was also quite cocky about his understanding of competing wagons and how helped get competing wagons and reads based off of it. Town. If EGW is scum, could be a less active scum partner not pushing against him such as Laserguy/Somitomi

JC - Will share in near future. Town lean

Makhaira – There was something in D1 that Mak said that had me learning town, but now I can’t find nor do I remember what it was. I feel like it was something along the lines of I recall Mak having a manipulative nature and this game seems considerably less manipulative. They have been structuring their reads in a way that gives the necessary content but isn’t ordered perhaps purposefully to make it more difficult for scum to understand the reads. I am slightly concerned that Mak is so widely town read but most everybody and maybe only EGW is seeing through a charade but lean town., Potential scum partner is Boomfrog. There was an interaction where Mak seemed back and forth and could be a strategic effort to manage a scum partner’s slot without making it obvious.

Madge – If not a secret mod, then based off of lack or reads and only small bits of efforts here and there, this is typical madge behavior D1 and I do believe Madge always tries a bit harder as scum. Due to indifference to the game at this point, lean town.

Wam - Null working on read

Somitomi Null working on read

Bop – During D1 was the most active scum hunter. They were adamant on the importance of Day 1 content and showed some frustration towards players with limited D1 content which shows consist with their playstyle. Bop’s been consistently engaging and re-processing their reads. I particularly like 2 full reads lists D1 adapting to updated conclusions. Town lean. I think most likely scum partner is tehbubblez. There was a couple interactions between them that flagged for me during the time I was tunneling more on tehbubblez and Bop’s second read list dropped tehbubblez down to one of scummiest players at the point when is seem sure that tehbubblez would be the first elim.


TehBubblez - Same opinion at end of D1, except only slight scum lean now. If they are scum don't feel like they deserve to get away with that playstlye, so am rather hopefuly they are frustrated town.

Boomfrog- D1 Boomfrog almost felt too eager to make pushes. This read may be based off of my poor memory of Boomfrog’s gameplay, but he seemed too quick to lead town. D2 my concern is if he’s scum that he is misleading us right to scum’s hands if it helps scum to know our flavor alignments. This may be something that we can resolve as true or fact later in the game, so I’m fine with holding on the D2 yeet, but leaning scum, but not leaning as far as I was end of D1. No one seems to fit in as a scum partner but I don’t believe Boomfrog can be an indy, so maybe that should be taken into consideration as well as a point in their favor.

Sabrar - Currently assuming full scum due to potential scum slip.

This is a really good reads list. Like, A) it's shows a very townie perspective sincerely trying to solve, especially the Makhaira read. But B) this skill in reading shown here is a huge improvement over the Heury I know from years ago. You've really grown man, I'm impressed.

With the Fake Claim conflict dismissed what's your updated read on Sabrar (and are there any other secondary updates to others?)

Why do you not find my point to Santy about theBubblez persuasive?

I like to push people D1 to see where others are wiling to follow, and I like to move around so I can get a feel for any connections or resistance on as many players as I can, with the balance of trying to make my pushes significant enough to be taken seriously. I do this every game that I'm not pulling some bizarre D1 stunt. (I do miss pulling D1 stunts though). Why do you find this pattern scummy? (Your D2 concern is valid, I respect the paranoia)

boomfrog wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:34 pm

EGW wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 4:03 pm

boomfrog wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 2:49 pmWhy do you not find my point to Santy about theBubblez persuasive?

What's persuasive about it?

I pointed out the Santy why I think theBubblez is lock-town. I assume anyone else reading every post would also consider the evidence. Did you not find my point persuasive?

Also that reminds me:
@Santy Your response to my point was very noncommittal. Were you persuaded? Also, please claim your associations. (And I guess answer whatever EGW's question was too please.)

boomfrog wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:37 am @JC_DADDY25 and @wam, still waiting for you two to weigh in on me vs Sabrar. (But enjoy your weekend. this is more of a reminder not a demand)

boomfrog wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 12:26 amI think we should save this discussion for after everyone has claimed. A side effect of this analysis is explaining to scum exactly what they should be doing during this claim.

Santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:22 amI feel like Im missing something here? What was in specific about the way it was proposed that you are against Sabrar?

Santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:47 am@Sabrar are you still sure Boomfrog is scum ?

boomfrog wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 2:49 pm Heury's reads -

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heuristically_alone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:49 am Ahippo – has been very transparent about lack of strong reads and confusion. Also they don’t feel defensive when being questioned or accused which I feel is more natural for town. That coupled with the early role claim and transparency of how it would be used (random number generator). I am concerned with the lack of scum hunting. UPDATE: Since Sabrar confirmed receiving motivator action then I’m assuming at this point ahippo is cleared town (much more likely) or sabrar and ahippo are scum mates (much less likely). If Sabrar flips scum, ahippo is still likely town

EGW- Scum hunting and taking care to dissect others posts and follow up with plenty of questions. They are open to discussions and willing to adapt their reads. Flipping Mak their scummiest read D1 is evidence evolving suspicions and in general his reads all seem to be uninfluenced by other players. EGW was also quite cocky about his understanding of competing wagons and how helped get competing wagons and reads based off of it. Town. If EGW is scum, could be a less active scum partner not pushing against him such as Laserguy/Somitomi

JC - Will share in near future. Town lean

Makhaira – There was something in D1 that Mak said that had me learning town, but now I can’t find nor do I remember what it was. I feel like it was something along the lines of I recall Mak having a manipulative nature and this game seems considerably less manipulative. They have been structuring their reads in a way that gives the necessary content but isn’t ordered perhaps purposefully to make it more difficult for scum to understand the reads. I am slightly concerned that Mak is so widely town read but most everybody and maybe only EGW is seeing through a charade but lean town., Potential scum partner is Boomfrog. There was an interaction where Mak seemed back and forth and could be a strategic effort to manage a scum partner’s slot without making it obvious.

Madge – If not a secret mod, then based off of lack or reads and only small bits of efforts here and there, this is typical madge behavior D1 and I do believe Madge always tries a bit harder as scum. Due to indifference to the game at this point, lean town.

Wam - Null working on read

Somitomi Null working on read

Bop – During D1 was the most active scum hunter. They were adamant on the importance of Day 1 content and showed some frustration towards players with limited D1 content which shows consist with their playstyle. Bop’s been consistently engaging and re-processing their reads. I particularly like 2 full reads lists D1 adapting to updated conclusions. Town lean. I think most likely scum partner is tehbubblez. There was a couple interactions between them that flagged for me during the time I was tunneling more on tehbubblez and Bop’s second read list dropped tehbubblez down to one of scummiest players at the point when is seem sure that tehbubblez would be the first elim.


TehBubblez - Same opinion at end of D1, except only slight scum lean now. If they are scum don't feel like they deserve to get away with that playstlye, so am rather hopefuly they are frustrated town.

Boomfrog- D1 Boomfrog almost felt too eager to make pushes. This read may be based off of my poor memory of Boomfrog’s gameplay, but he seemed too quick to lead town. D2 my concern is if he’s scum that he is misleading us right to scum’s hands if it helps scum to know our flavor alignments. This may be something that we can resolve as true or fact later in the game, so I’m fine with holding on the D2 yeet, but leaning scum, but not leaning as far as I was end of D1. No one seems to fit in as a scum partner but I don’t believe Boomfrog can be an indy, so maybe that should be taken into consideration as well as a point in their favor.

Sabrar - Currently assuming full scum due to potential scum slip.

This is a really good reads list. Like, A) it's shows a very townie perspective sincerely trying to solve, especially the Makhaira read. But B) this skill in reading shown here is a huge improvement over the Heury I know from years ago. You've really grown man, I'm impressed.

With the Fake Claim conflict dismissed what's your updated read on Sabrar (and are there any other secondary updates to others?)

Why do you not find my point to Santy about theBubblez persuasive?

I like to push people D1 to see where others are wiling to follow, and I like to move around so I can get a feel for any connections or resistance on as many players as I can, with the balance of trying to make my pushes significant enough to be taken seriously. I do this every game that I'm not pulling some bizarre D1 stunt. (I do miss pulling D1 stunts though). Why do you find this pattern scummy? (Your D2 concern is valid, I respect the paranoia)

Santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:45 amYou may want to elaborate more on why you think this?

heuristically_alone wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:28 am I love you. I hope we get to chat and hang out outside the game. Anyone want to pounce on BoomFrog with me?

heuristically_alone wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 12:53 am

EGW wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:57 pm

heuristically_alone wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:12 pmWhen are you going to start talking about who you're fine with dying today rather than repeating other players' thoughts?

You handsome man you, join me. Also, how do you feel about Boom voting Bubbles?

My memory is not the best but I think it was Boomfrog that once said he doesn't vote scum partners on D1. If Bubbles flips scum, Boom wouldn't be by top consideration for D2

heuristically_alone wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:28 am I love you. I hope we get to chat and hang out outside the game. Anyone want to pounce on BoomFrog with me?

Santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:58 pmDoes heury usually do these types of charts btw?

JC_DADDY25 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:56 amI still feel Heury may be our indy, if not he's scum. He's doing really well at trying to appear town, I'll give him that.

heuristically_alone wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:52 am I thought only Moody was stumped. I am fully aware that I am mis-yeeted D1 or D2 more often than not, so I have been putting in a purposeful effort to sound town, so that's likely what your noticing. I can't say you're that bad at the game for noticing that detail I do agree with your reads list for the most part, but disagree with your scum read of Sabrar and I think you should take a closer look at Wam.

EGW wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:03 amSabrar, what do you think of this?

boomfrog wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:34 pmI pointed out the Santy why I think theBubblez is lock-town. I assume anyone else reading every post would also consider the evidence. Did you not find my point persuasive?

EGW wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:19 amSabrar, does my posts help change your read on Heury?