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Sabrar:
Sabrar is probably Town.

I like this analysis a lot and I agree with a lot of the sentiments here, except specifically Mak (who IIRC has had issues with misunderstanding mechanics before, though don’t ask me to quote a specific game for it) and fonti (I don’t think this is significant). Also noting this for later when I see how the Wam wagon shakes out.

This feels like Town Sabrar.

I like these reads, though I don’t agree with a lot of them, but I like where Sabrar is coming from. Seven/Madge connection interests me since I have similar suspicions.

Swiss:
My recollection of Swiss is that he was quite abrasive as Town and somewhat more mellow as mafia. So far seems to be reminding me of Town!him.

Yeah, I think this is Town Swiss.

I like this from Swiss.

This is interesting but I feel like probably NAI? Swiss seems to have largely forgotten the games he played on DGames and heury doesn’t have an encyclopedic mafia memory so this is entirely possible.

This is sort of true about Sabrar? He doesn’t mind people who play hard, but doesn’t like it when the game gets personal. NAI behaviour.

I agree with most of this. Swiss makes good points re: bessie.

I like this vote

Fred:
Seems like super obvious Town compared to what I’ve seen as scum.

Fred is very sharp. Hmm…

Fred’s play this game is like night and day from what I’ve seen from him previously.

I love this from Fred. He’s like mini-BoomFrog in training.

I’m confused by what Fred means by being only on Page 5 here when they’re clearly following the game in real time.

Doesn’t matter cuz he’s Town anyway. This vote is awful but not in a scummy way.

Seven:
I expect one of these for me. That’s literally the only reason I replaced into this game GRIN. Um. I think this is Town!Seven. Scum!Seven doesn’t show his hand like this. Vaguely amused to note that Seven puts his mafia game as so much stronger than his Town game. I *think* this is probably Town-indicative. Noting his comments on Wam until I see how the EoD elimination played out. His comments on Sabrar are interesting as well, may come back to this later.

I think Seven remembering the game but not the specific mechanics is probably genuine but also probably NAI.

There’s something I’m thinking about with respect to this that is making me worry about Seven. Specifically, Seven’s play is usually disruptive to Town when he is Town. It’s interesting to me that his play has been so… by the book… this game. Might downgrade him to scumlean. Noting the same problem with BoomFrog.

I’m a little surprised about Seven agreeing with the case on Moody, and, to a lesser extent, on Mak, here. Moody does not have great attention to detail and his reasons for his reads are often based on things I find hard to see. Mak, likewise is just super obvious Town this game. This feels like Seven ignoring important meta information to keep the low-hanging fruit elims open.

This post is super weird and I don’t know what to make of it.

Seven claiming he wants to imitate bessie is interesting. I think it’s possible and NAI. I disagree that his content this game is anything resembling Hari Seldon.
I don’t buy this from Seven. If they believed Wam was mafia, it wouldn’t matter whether they were present or not and Seven is certainly ruthless enough to make a play here as Town. The reason for yeeting bessie here is terrible (bessie also generally is a poor info elim as mafia since she doesn’t spew her partners and Seven ought to know this).

This is awful.


Fonti
Generally like their analysis but probably this is NAI for fonti.

It’s odd that fonti is referring to Seven as Xivii. It’s not wrong just strange. This is an interesting post otherwise but everything is NAI for fonti.

I agree with this by fonti. Probably not w/w with Seven.

Hmm… I think I like this

FWIW, I don’t think fake townslips are particularly common here. I think there are one or two players who have done it that I can recall (Wam?).

Not super excited about these reads from fonti. One of fonti’s great strengths as Town is being able to effectively narrow the pool of scum very tight have a very strong PoE. This feels off to me. Noting for reference that fonti did not clash with Wam this game, whereas the two are usually fairly adversarial.

Yeah, I’m not liking how wide open fonti is keeping the field, nor how they’re looking past Fred’s very obvious towniness so easily. Curious why fonti is Townreading Seven.

Interesting here that fonti doesn’t recognize any of the many, many places where Fred has obvTowned this game.

This is a good course-correction by fonti. FTR fonti pushed for an elimination of Synchronicity in a similar situation when they (fonti) was scum. But also both wagons are Town so this isn’t high risk for fonti to switch. This feels legit though.

Makhaira:
Mak is Town. Mak would never get this wrong as mafia. Not just that he got it wrong, but he came up with an incorrect interpretation for what he thought was happening.

Still feels Townie.

Mak is pretty obvTown this game. He’s much more energetic than his previous game.

Mak is super obvious Town and I’m baffled at how many people are scumreading him. Seriously, look at his previous game compared to this one. Mak is bored, lurky, and indecisive as mafia.
I like this from Mak and I agree with his analysis of Boom.

I have similar feelings about JC/Fred as Mak here, though JC was really tough to read in AI so IDK.

Misc:
I don’t see it anywhere, but I’m assuming we have 3 mafia?

I think there’s a problem with this setup where it uses standard roles with slightly non-standard modifiers that has resulted in a low of confusion.


Bessie:
Noting this for now.

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FWIW, I think bessie missing setup details is probably NAI-to-Townleaning.

This is interesting and I don’t think I have ever been described as a person with feelings.

I laughed at this. Also bessie/Seven not w/w.

This is Town bessie.

Wam:
Wam is Town and I am suspicious of everyone on that wagon.

Again, super Town

I agree with Wam about JC here. I don’t care for JC’s content much and he’s giving me a different vibe from last game.

Noting Wam’s suspicion of bessie here. Wam is IIRC often one of the players who locktowns bessie early.

Wam was such a terrible elim. WTF people. This is good.

BoomFrog:
This feels townie.

I can think of several reasons why Sabrar would try to make his posts role-neutral, so it’s odd that BoomFrog wouldn’t.

This is a very on the nose defense of Seven. Strange.

These reads from BoomFrog feel legit to me. His Wam read is very classic BoomFrog, and I think the distrust of fonti is reasonable for Boom here.

BoomFrog is scum. He is clearly fishing to see if moody is the doctor in this exchange.

Madge:
This gives me a weird vibe. Miscellaneous note on Madge is that she is very good with mechanics and role analysis so I’m a little disappointed by her play in D0 so far.

I feel like this is possibly a slip? Scumpoint for Madge. Madge giving D1 reads at all is also a little odd to me. Particularly of Seven. @Madge, why is Seven Town?

i will stand by the fact that all the roles suck for scum, there was no "one shot watcher" in their pool, like seriously! day rolecop, extra kill, janitor, it's all scary

Don’t like this from Madge.

Madge has D1 reads. Hmm. Interesting that Swiss isn’t mentioned here despite being comparatively active. Also very weird that Madge doesn’t mention bessie even in jest. Actually, for that matter, strange that bessie hasn’t been poking too much at Madge. Scumread of moody seems to come out of nowhere and they had said Mak was scummy earlier but have moved them to ‘confused about’ for no reason. There’s a lot to dislike here and not all of I think is just Madge being Madge. Scumlean. At least one partner in Fonti/Sabrar/Seven if Madge is mafia.

Madge is scum. She’s willing to jettison her strongest townread at the drop of a hat.

JC:
Don’t care for this.

This seems kinda townie

I like thisaggression[/url] from JC. Though IIRC they were pretty passive as Town in our previous game.

This is probably a hard Townslip from JC.

As of Page 3:
Town:
Mak, Swiss, Fred

As of the End of D0:

Town:
Mak, Swiss, Fred, Wam

Townlean:
Bessie, Sabrar, Seven

Null:
Fonti

Scumlean:
BoomFrog, JC, Madge

As of Page 10:
I would be voting JC

As of Page 15:

Town:
Mak, Swiss, Fred, Wam

Townlean:
Bessie, Sabrar, BoomFrog, fonti

Scumlean:
Seven, JC, Madge

I’d be voting Seven

Stopping here for now.

Eod1

People with legit townslips that should never be eliminated: Fred, JC, Mak
People who are probably Town on play: Swiss, Sabrar, bessie
People who are fonti: Fonti
People who are scum: Madge, BoomFrog, Seven

For the record: Madge is probably Vengeful in this scenario.