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Re: Secret Santa Game Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:24 am
by madge
unvote

okay i somehow let this game go for 2 days and there's 4 pages

LET'S BRING BACK THE ARBITRARY POINT SYSTEM, pluses and minuses and NEW EQUALS SIGNS for null with absolutely NO accountability or justification on my part

the worst =+
moody =++
WMU =+==
boom =++++
wam +
osie -= (i think this is mostly playstyle tho)
bessie +


THE BESSIE OSIE FIGHT CONTINUES AND I CANNOT. grrrrr. like i am literally skimming over any parts of posts where you guys are talking to/about each other. which means scum is winning, but my sanity matters too


How is useful to know someone is paranoid about someone in generating a healthy discussion about the game
@WMU: we used to ask random questions to generate D1 discussion in the days of olde xkcd. i was famously bad at the questions when i came up with them, and apparently nothing has changed

@bessie i haven't midded secret santa for like 5 years. i did however just mod halloween lol



tldr: as a result of recent events I am basically heavily pocketing boomfrog now. I think boomfrog has a better idea than me of what's going on.

Re: Secret Santa Game Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:54 am
by the worst
Madge is my first townread. I hate this timeline.

Re: Secret Santa Game Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:58 am
by the worst
I don't know this plist particularly well. I know the folks I played with last time, and I'd be fairly scared of you being scum again. :p

From the outside world I know osie and I know wmu. I don't think ive actually seen WMU's scumgame but she can be a badass as town so it'd be interesting I guess. Osie is also good scum and it's been a hot minute but I feel like I have a p decent shot at reading him.

Re: Secret Santa Game Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:33 pm
by moody7277
the worst wrote:Why unvote here? Does osie vs. bessie not interest you at all? What do you think of madge or boom?
RV was over.
bessie v osie seems to be perfectly typical on her part. Your comment about osie being "on-brand" seems to indicate you have the same opinion of him
I'll get to Madge and boom when I have more time afternoon my time.

Re: Secret Santa Game Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:28 pm
by xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
Skimming the thread (work break) I see a Bessie vs Osie interaction. I will read through and analyze later.

GTH I think Osie looks good based on meta (long posts explaining thoughts) and the slight paranoia showed about me. I want to consider that an attempt to read me, and not the other way around.

Ftr NUF is a site where cool people are playing mafia :)

Re: Secret Santa Game Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:28 pm
by xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
moody7277 wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:33 pm
the worst wrote:Why unvote here? Does osie vs. bessie not interest you at all? What do you think of madge or boom?
RV was over.
bessie v osie seems to be perfectly typical on her part. Your comment about osie being "on-brand" seems to indicate you have the same opinion of him
I'll get to Madge and boom when I have more time afternoon my time.
The bolded helps you to find an alignament?

Re: Secret Santa Game Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:40 pm
by xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
the worst wrote: Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:53 pm
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx wrote: Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:44 pm
the worst wrote: Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:43 pm my imminent demise
on page 2
the shame is limitless
You forgot to answer me
I assumed your question was rhetorical :p
yes there's a reason
would this answer ever be anything else
Please explain your reason and the meaning of your last sentence like I am 5

Re: Secret Santa Game Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:50 pm
by xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
madge wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:24 am holy crap why did i agree to this game.

thank you for saying i'm a good player but that's only as scum because i feel sneaky and manipulative!!!! you'll see my town game now and be AMAZED (at how bad it is) - this is also why so many xkcders gave me a free pass on all my erratic behaviour

@osie, bessie: i get the feeling this is going to become huge and encompass the whole of D1 and on the VERY LIKELY CASE you are both town I do NOT want to have to deal with the fact that scum got to sit here and throw popcorn at you while giggling smugly.

@everyone else: who, OTHER THAN OSIE AND BESSIE, would you be most scared of as scum and why? [this is just a question i am asking for the purpose of discussion generation, if you think this is a scummy question then answer an alternative you prefer]

My current thoughts:
Bessie is being bessie, nulltell with slight town lean because null = town
I don't know what Osie is like but the level of freakout/etc seems very genuine when I feel like scum wouldn't want to go through all the trouble of producing a wall of text on D1 for someone they know is town (I have to assume scum wouldn't do this to each other but IDK)
What's the purpose of the bolded sentence? Nvm you explained immediatly after...

How is useful to know someone is paranoid about someone in generating a healthy discussion about the game?
Ftr I am never affraid of anyone when I am town.

And from what I know that's a post a skilled mafia would make about a t/t fight.

Vote Madge

Re: Secret Santa Game Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:05 pm
by boomfrog
@wmu are you a native English speaker?

Re: Secret Santa Game Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:08 pm
by boomfrog
@The Worst: what is your current read on osie? He's generated a pretty decent chunk of content.

Re: Secret Santa Game Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:35 pm
by xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
boomfrog wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:05 pm @wmu are you a native English speaker?
No. Not even ESL :)
I apologise for my mistakes

Re: Secret Santa Game Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:36 pm
by xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
Do you want to know anything else boomfrog?

Re: Secret Santa Game Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:22 pm
by moody7277
[quote+"xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx"]The bolded helps you to find an alignment?[/quote]

The feel of her interaction with osie certainly doesn't give me any scum vibes on her.

bessie: Picked osie for her D1 tunnel right off, has been very aggro on him. I expect her to get around to some other people, but osie has triggered her something fierce. +2

boomfrog: actually checking with osie's cohort about whether he's on meta. paralleling bessie about osie, including a vote on him. +1.5

heury: ghosting us right now. -0

Madge: early controversial mod question. vote on bessie with some levity. some concern that bessie v osie might become a distraction. +0.5

Osie: really interested in Snide's role, including what has been interpreted as rolefishing here viewtopic.php?p=16229#p16229. Lots of interaction with his cohort, accuses the worst of following him, subsequent vote. Starts focusing on bessie after she begins tunneling, but also decides I'm scummy for some reason. After more interaction with her, switches to voting bessie. The fact he's going to all the effort to thoroughly refute her is curious. Cynical View says he's scared she'll lead a wagon on him. +0.5

Snide: One post besides confirmation that is what apparently incited osie's Pratchett reply. 0

the worst: sardonic reaction to the two extra votes after my RV. thinks osie is behaving normally. votes bessie, likes the interaction between her and osie. town read on Madge. +1.5

WMU: upset the worst calls her votable, tries getting him to give a better explanation for that, falls on the osie side of the big rumble. votes Madge. +1.5

Voteables as of now:
Madge, osie, Snide.

Re: Secret Santa Game Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:44 pm
by osieorb18
moody7277 wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:22 pmStarts focusing on bessie after she begins tunneling
If you consider "FoS osieorb18" to be tunneling... Given that I was the first person to question bessie at all. If anything, I had the gall to question what she was doing and she took that as an excuse to expand one of her scummy feelers into a miselim attempt.

Re: Secret Santa Game Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:53 pm
by moody7277
I consider 4/5 posts tunneling. She also gave about a post and a half side-eye at Madge before going full bore at you, I'll wait to see a woof-grr list from her to see if that's changed any. bessie could be completely wrong about you being scum, me and Cynical View just think you are going to a lot of effort to counter punch, which suggests at the very least you think she could be persuasive (not untrue btw).

Re: Secret Santa Game Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:03 pm
by Wam
The chatting has begun, some people mention the elephant in the room others ignore it completely. However, all of you want to work out who is sabotaging the party and how to get rid of them.

Votals
Madge - 1 - xX_wakemeup1337_Xx
Osieorb18 - 2 - Boomfrog, bessie
Bessie - 3 - Madge, Osieorb18, The worst

With 9 alive it takes 5 for an elimination.

Not voting - Moody7277, The Snide Sniper, Heury

Deadline in 3 days 17 hours and some minutes - Countdown

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20220204T14&p0=4757&msg=End+of+Day+1&font=cursive

Re: Secret Santa Game Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:08 pm
by osieorb18
moody7277 wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:53 pmust think you are going to a lot of effort to counter punch, which suggests at the very least you think she could be persuasive (not untrue btw).
Comparably, this may be fair. For me at least, this isn't very much effort; if I was at full blast this game, I'd probably have more posts than are already in the thread.

Re: Secret Santa Game Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:08 pm
by the worst
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:40 pm
the worst wrote: Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:53 pm
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx wrote: Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:44 pm
You forgot to answer me
I assumed your question was rhetorical :p
yes there's a reason
would this answer ever be anything else
Please explain your reason and the meaning of your last sentence like I am 5
I'd always say "yes there's a reason", right? I'm not the type of player who does things randomly without at least coming up with an excuse for it. How does asking me if I have a reason help sort me?

Re: Secret Santa Game Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:10 pm
by osieorb18
some people mention the elephant in the room others ignore it completely.
I feel like this implies that there may be at least one scum not in the wagons formed today thus far.

Re: Secret Santa Game Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:35 pm
by osieorb18
moody7277 wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:22 pmreally interested in Snide's role, including what has been interpreted as rolefishing here
Also... What? I made one post stating that a post which might be a hint at a killing role made me feel that Sniper was more likely to be town. That's it. That's not "really interested." Not in the slightest.

Re: Secret Santa Game Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:37 pm
by osieorb18
the worst wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:08 pmI'm not the type of player who does things randomly without at least coming up with an excuse for it.
I am. Banana.

Re: Secret Santa Game Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:39 pm
by osieorb18
the worst wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:58 amFrom the outside world I know osie and I know wmu. I don't think ive actually seen WMU's scumgame but she can be a badass as town so it'd be interesting I guess. Osie is also good scum and it's been a hot minute but I feel like I have a p decent shot at reading him.
How do you feel about WMU this game?

Re: Secret Santa Game Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:01 pm
by the worst
boomfrog wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:08 pm @The Worst: what is your current read on osie? He's generated a pretty decent chunk of content.
I'm not really sure. A pretty decent chunk of content is fair, but a lot of his content has been bein cute (just osie things) and then being frustrated by bessie. I think bessie's push feels more disingenuous than osie's reaction, and osie prefers town so at some level I'd call him slightly more likely to wall case someone on fuckin page 3 as town. But reading osie in a vacuum I'm not sure that "annoyed by bessie" qualifies as nuanced enough for me to feel confident.

Is there something particular about his content that strikes you as alignment indicative? / like I should have a read on him specifically?

Re: Secret Santa Game Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:04 pm
by the worst
osieorb18 wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:39 pm
the worst wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:58 amFrom the outside world I know osie and I know wmu. I don't think ive actually seen WMU's scumgame but she can be a badass as town so it'd be interesting I guess. Osie is also good scum and it's been a hot minute but I feel like I have a p decent shot at reading him.
How do you feel about WMU this game?
She hasn't (sorry) woken her up yet. I'm not seeing a lot of like, organic reasoning behind what she's asking ? I could be persuaded to vote there.

Re: Secret Santa Game Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:15 pm
by xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx
the worst wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:08 pm
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:40 pm
the worst wrote: Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:53 pm

I assumed your question was rhetorical :p
yes there's a reason
would this answer ever be anything else
Please explain your reason and the meaning of your last sentence like I am 5
I'd always say "yes there's a reason", right? I'm not the type of player who does things randomly without at least coming up with an excuse for it. How does asking me if I have a reason help sort me?
The reason itself helps. Maybe I didn't ask for it literally but it's implied, and you ignored it and I want to know why.