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We actually have to kill cult today I think or we're screwed when they use their recruit.

Actually unless Laser is town, we're screwed regardless. @Laser, how come you didn't switch to wam when you visited the thread at end of day?

I guess all we can do is wait on Zenni's result.

@bessie did you believe anything you were saying?

Hi everyone. Still catching up. Yesterday was busier than I expected so I wasn't able to use it to read during the night. But I did submit a check on Seven and got a result of mafia.

Vote Seven

From what I have read, I was leaning town on suzaku and Bessie, but those are very flimsy reads.

Zenni wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:05 am Hi everyone. Still catching up. Yesterday was busier than I expected so I wasn't able to use it to read during the night. But I did submit a check on Seven and got a result of mafia.

Vote Seven

From what I have read, I was leaning town on suzaku and Bessie, but those are very flimsy reads.

Your predecessor already had a mafia result on me from N2.

You're not someone I could see overlooking that. So who did you really check?

Seven wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:58 am

Zenni wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:05 am Hi everyone. Still catching up. Yesterday was busier than I expected so I wasn't able to use it to read during the night. But I did submit a check on Seven and got a result of mafia.

Vote Seven

From what I have read, I was leaning town on suzaku and Bessie, but those are very flimsy reads.

Your predecessor already had a mafia result on me from N2.

Huh. Double-checking the PM. Oh, I misread Madge's messages. The Night 3 check was a town result on suzaku.

Seven wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:04 am You're not someone I could see overlooking that. So who did you really check?

I don't think I know you.

Zenni wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:09 am

Seven wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:04 am You're not someone I could see overlooking that. So who did you really check?

I don't think I know you.

Fusion Mafia. ChazDot. Thanks for replacing in.

Zenni wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:07 am

Seven wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:58 am

Zenni wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:05 am Hi everyone. Still catching up. Yesterday was busier than I expected so I wasn't able to use it to read during the night. But I did submit a check on Seven and got a result of mafia.

Vote Seven

From what I have read, I was leaning town on suzaku and Bessie, but those are very flimsy reads.

Your predecessor already had a mafia result on me from N2.

Huh. Double-checking the PM. Oh, I misread Madge's messages. The Night 3 check was a town result on suzaku.

Hm I don't believe this. You wouldn't have claimed immediately had you not known your slot had already claimed. Additionally you opened with having only a weak read on Suzaku.

Seven wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:14 am

Zenni wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:09 am

Seven wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:04 am You're not someone I could see overlooking that. So who did you really check?

I don't think I know you.

Fusion Mafia. ChazDot. Thanks for replacing in.

Huh? I've never played in a game called Fusion Mafia.

Seven wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:17 am

Zenni wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:07 am

Seven wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:58 am
Your predecessor already had a mafia result on me from N2.

Huh. Double-checking the PM. Oh, I misread Madge's messages. The Night 3 check was a town result on suzaku.

Hm I don't believe this. You wouldn't have claimed immediately had you not known your slot had already claimed. Additionally you opened with having only a weak read on Suzaku.

The Suzaku result was in a separate message from the other results. I just misread Night 2 as Night 3.

@bessie @LaserGuy - Does Seven post like this as town ? I know this is a bastard game so I would not be surprised if my result was wrong, but the way they is posting is unusual to me.

Note to self: whenever I can't read bessie as townier than +2, policy lynch her into oblivion.

Well Seven, since your not the serial killer filth I figured you were, I might have to reconsider you might actually be town despite Zenni's result as miller might be within the purview of a chaotic game.

Zenni wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:22 am

Seven wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:17 am

Zenni wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:07 am

Huh. Double-checking the PM. Oh, I misread Madge's messages. The Night 3 check was a town result on suzaku.

Hm I don't believe this. You wouldn't have claimed immediately had you not known your slot had already claimed. Additionally you opened with having only a weak read on Suzaku.

The Suzaku result was in a separate message from the other results. I just misread Night 2 as Night 3.

You didn't address the point about you claiming right away. You must have been aware that TSS had already claimed otherwise you wouldn't have done so willy nilly. Yet you're proclaiming to not have read that far.

And you're also pretending that you don't know that Bessie has been eliminated. So essentally you're lying out the arse left and right.

Alive
Seven*
moody7277
LaserGuy
wam
suzaku*
Zenni

mostly dead
jimbob
somitomi
patzer

Totally dead
bessie permanently dead: Cryonicist, independent Antisocial Survivor
BoomFrog permanently dead: Ellen Ripley, town Jack of All Trades

*eliminated once

Okay, so there's the state of the game borrowed from Madge's list in the OP (with one correction). Of those alive, I think LaserGuy and Suzaku are the unvotables, although Seven may have won a provisional spot on that list based on bessie's flip. LaserGuy having a double vote makes total sense for town as it pertains to the discussion re town not being in the plurality because of cult. I am eagerly looking forward to who pops back up (if anyone) at noon. If it's anyone other than jimbob, they get tossed in the votables list.

Is it possible that Seven's resurrection is only triggered when they are eliminated? That would fit with them being mafia.

Quick Monday morning rehash.

Players:
1. heuristically_alone/Seven
Alive, but has been rezzed so is finally dead next time
D1 elim (hammer - somitomi, suzaku, wam, bessie, the snide sniper, patzer)
Rezzed D2 - self rez LIKELY
Claimed Phoenix (one-time self rez)
Claimed NK on BoomFrog
Claimed got a 1 shot non-revivable kill on ressurection

2. moody7277
Alive

3. bessie
permanently dead: Cryonicist, independent Antisocial Survivor
N3 NK

4. laserguy
Alive
Has a double vote power.

5. jimbob
Dead, but can be rezzed
N2 NK

6. BoomFrog
permenantly dead: Ellen Ripley, town Jack of All Trades
N2 NK (claimed by Seven)

7. wam
Alive

8. somitomi
Dead, but can be rezzed
D3 elim (plurality - bessie, laserguy, laserguy, Seven)
Claimed to have rezzed Suzaku N2, Suzaku rezzed at noon D3 by night action.

9. patzer
Dead, but can be rezzed
D2 elim (plurality - bessie, wam, Seven)
Claimed Mafia/Non-Mafia cop.

10. suzaku
Alive, but has been rezzed so is finally dead next time
N1 NK - Only I know this, but from flavour was almost certainly the Mafia NK. I will disclose the flavour if anyone wishes to know.
Rezzed D3 - rezzerd by external force (only I know this for sure), likely a night action.

11. the snide sniper / Zenii
Alive
Claimed faction cop
Claimed results:
　N1: somitomi - town
　N2: Seven - mafia
　N3: Suzaku - town



There has been 1 live player (not necessarily the same one) in the cult at each morning.
D1 - this could be any player NOT {BoomFrog, bessie} # BF/bessie died and flipped as not-cult, therefore have never been in the cult barring more weirdness than I expect
D2 - this could be any player NOT {BoomFrog, bessie, heury/Seven, Suzaku}
D3 - this could be any player NOT {BoomFrog, bessie, Suzaku, patzer, jimbob}
D4 - this could be any player NOT {BoomFrog, bessie, jimbob, somitomi, patzer}

Group {jimbobmacdoodle, LaserGuy, moody7277, patzer, Seven, somitomi, Suzaku, Wam, Zenni} contains 2 Mafia (assumed), 1 live cultist, n dead cultists and 6-n town.
Group {LaserGuy, moody7277, Seven, Suzaku, Wam, Zenni} contains 2 Mafia, 1 cultist, and 3 town.

Unofficial Votals

Seven (1) - Zenni
Wam (1) - Seven

Not voting: LaserGuy, moody7277, Suzaku, Wam

6 players alive, 4 to eliminate.
There was 1 member in the cult at dawn on D4.

Deadline in about 2 days 6 hours.

My apologies for not being around at the end of the last day. Hopefully this week will be a bit kinder in terms of work.

@Seven - What's your take on Wam's faction (you think he's cult or Mafia)

Zenni wrote: ↑Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:07 am Is it possible that Seven's resurrection is only triggered when they are eliminated? That would fit with them being mafia.

It's possible, but there's no way of knowing unless she is killed again (by the rules, no player may be rezzed twice).

Suzaku wrote: ↑Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:33 am Seven (1) - Zenni
Wam (1) - Seven

This is going to confuse me.

Suzaku wrote: ↑Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:36 am @Seven - What's your take on Wam's faction (you think he's cult or Mafia)

Either or. I think we have Wam/Moody mafia with TSS as cult leader, but I can also see Pat/Moody with Wam as cult leader.

I'm going to assume Laser is town based on game balance.

Why do you ask, @Suzaku?

Seven wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:52 am Actually unless Laser is town, we're screwed regardless. @Laser, how come you didn't switch to wam when you visited the thread at end of day?

I didn't have time to really read anything that was going on. I skimmed for people voting, didn't see anything except a couple votes on you, so I left my vote where it was.

Zenni wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:07 am Huh. Double-checking the PM. Oh, I misread Madge's messages. The Night 3 check was a town result on suzaku.

Did you submit Suzaku as the choice or did TSS?

Zenni wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:25 am @bessie @LaserGuy - Does Seven post like this as town ? I know this is a bastard game so I would not be surprised if my result was wrong, but the way they is posting is unusual to me.

Sometimes? I have been thinking that the result is probably wrong, though I'm less certain of that in the context of non-Town bessie.

Btw, I attempted to resurrect jimbob last night. I don't have confirmation that it worked, but we'll know shortly.