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The Snide Sniper wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 1:14 am

the worst wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:19 pm I feel like this setup is going to be hilarious once all is revealed

Oh absolutely.

the worst wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:32 pm

The Snide Sniper wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:08 pm My votes are on WMU and the worst.

I'm not too stressed yet, but your solve isn't 2/2. we're pretty close to the wire, and town voting incorrectly is going to cost us the game.

Not saying you need to bend your reads because I tell you to - ive just found you a bit inscrutable this game and I happen to know that your reads arent perfect.

Do you have something that might point us to who is scum or is this just a town claim?

the worst wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:32 pm Please keep talking us through where you're at. Did you clear madge as town prior to your night result, or is it just based on that?

It's based on this post by bessie. I didn't trust it fully until bessie flipped town though.

xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:28 pm I wish to point out that Heury flipping tracker/watcher/role cop means that probably town doesn't have another similar role, so Madge's claim sticks out as fake for me.

Why couldn't they? This is secret santa.

xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:53 pm

The Snide Sniper wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:08 pm By the way, given that bessie saw madge visit osie N2 and he very clearly isn't dead, I think we can put her down as "unlikely". My votes are on WMU and the worst.

(Also, does xylo mean the same thing as elo?)

@The Snide Sniper explain please your votes.

Process of elimination, mainly. I have madge down as "unlikely" and strong town reads on osie, and there are two mafia left, so that just leaves you and worst.

madge wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 1:56 am OKAY FULLCLAIM

I promise 100000% that there is nothing secret, I have kept nothing from you.

I'm a compulsive visitor. I must visit someone in the night and either they're told I visited them, or in the case of the NK, the whole thread is told I visited the NK target in bold at day start.

N1 Osie
N2 the worst (previous post I used the word "the worst" as breadcrumb just in case it helped I figure it won't)

My visits do nothing.

Logic for osie = osie wanted to vote me off, and i figured being told i visited would mean that they would know that i didn't do anything harmful which is something, I guess? I figured that was the only way I could make my visits helpful. Hopefully my logic as stated yesterday makes sense now.

Logic for the worst = honestly I almost forgot to submit my action so I did it in a hurry and just decided to visit my neighbour from the previous game. nothing deeper than that.

This is why I've been so disengaged, I was so excited for SS because it's normally ROLE MADNESS and this role is absolutely useless for my style of play as it gives me no useful information. I knew that when we got to this point the claim is going to seem really ridiculous and fake but what the hell else can I do but tell the truth.

if you want to vote me out today there's not much i can do. xylo means that I should probably go down with more of a fight but there's little i can do. all I ask is that everyone who is willing to fullclaim today do so, with results, and I will try and see if i can wrestle anything useful, but I'm not so arrogant as to think i'm the only person who can get good conclusions from claims so like, whatever. i know i suck and i'm sorry. when i flip town you'll all hopefully believe that i'm actually a terrible player lol

xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:56 amBut for the action on you to fail, my friend Osie, that means you were something like jailkept so your own action couldn't go through.

I am slightly confused by mechs so I let this here to be interpreted if I am wrong, but I think Osie lied

xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:56 am My role gives gifts for dead or alive.
I understood wrong that i will receive something from the targeted player role and N1 I targeted Moody with a gift.
I received the same gift back N2.
I targeted Osie last night and my action failed. Because of what i received, i wasn't RBed.
But for the action on you to fail, my friend Osie, that means you were something like jailkept so your own action couldn't go through.

xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:09 am So i am alive because I had bad reads and votes. That doesn't mean I am scum, that means I am pocketed by scum and I have wrong reads.

Now thinking at day 1, Osie used his meta knowledge to tell me the worst is villager.
After so many flips and after the worst who wasn't suspected by others except me is still alive, I come back to my D1 scum read on the duck

Osie and the worst makes a lot of sense

osieorb18 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:21 am

xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:56 am My role gives gifts for dead or alive.
I understood wrong that i will receive something from the targeted player role and N1 I targeted Moody with a gift.
I received the same gift back N2.
I targeted Osie last night and my action failed. Because of what i received, i wasn't RBed.
But for the action on you to fail, my friend Osie, that means you were something like jailkept so your own action couldn't go through.

Also this claim is a mess.

the worst wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:09 am I have literally been scumhunting all game. Like all I have been doing is pressing people asking questions discussing things and giving my reads. This is how I scumhunt. Suspect me if you need to but "hasn't scumhunted all game" is patently false - ive been scumhunting for the entire game.

osieorb18 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:36 am I'm pretty sure I know how WMU's role works and what she's described is impossible...

Sniper still looks the most sus, but WMU's claim is pretty bad.

I kinda like Madge's claim and following behaviour.

xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 12:56 pm

osieorb18 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:21 am

xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:56 am My role gives gifts for dead or alive.
I understood wrong that i will receive something from the targeted player role and N1 I targeted Moody with a gift.
I received the same gift back N2.
I targeted Osie last night and my action failed. Because of what i received, i wasn't RBed.
But for the action on you to fail, my friend Osie, that means you were something like jailkept so your own action couldn't go through.

Also this claim is a mess.

Why so?
It shows you lied so of course you will brush it off

madge wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:52 am I would assume I wouldn't learn of being (standardly) roleblocked, since I get no feedback from my action. So either my role didn't work (including redirection/the worst being hidden by someone else) or the worst is lying.

xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 1:10 pm

osieorb18 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:36 am I'm pretty sure I know how WMU's role works and what she's described is impossible...

Sniper still looks the most sus, but WMU's claim is pretty bad.

I kinda like Madge's claim and following behaviour.

Why is Sniper sus?