Trust Fall Mafia - Day 1

[GreedyBanger]

I've played dozens of these games with Kay and she does NOT enjoy being scum. The rationale of "Hey i'd fall with you but i dont wanna stop playing so soon" is almost certainly coming from town sided Kay. It seems enough people in the game trust her that she will fall out at some point so i am not worried about the slot.

Thank you. What's your response to this post in terms of Kay's assessment on you: post

I think its a reasonable thought for town Kay to have, I think if Kay was scum she'd be more likely to try and pocket me and fall out than actually try and sort me. I don't really feel self conscious in terms of how my opener was perceived really. I think I have to be less committal to bits in this environment because yall do not know me. I can't go quite as gung ho in an environment where I do not have meta to point at as on brand as town.

[GreedyBanger]

Also gutcheck reaction to EGW is very town. See's a player sort of low efforting on the outside, in the lower half of most peoples reads and they want to engage and sort me in a non combative way, quote replying to make sure I see it and then trying to live interact with me. Sort of feels like scum could just hope i'd stay frozen out and not be a fall candidate all game (this won't happen but EGW can't really know that).

[GreedyBanger]

If I've missed anything that needs directly responded to feel free to tag me about it, i'm about to go to bed but i'm not actively trying to ignore anything.

[EGW]

That's a good response. I have no other questions, although would like to see at least one scumread from you when you have a chance, before Day 2.

[somitomi]

Poor Kay, either top town read or bottom scum read for most people in this game, with not a lot of explanation, I don't envy that position.

Somi, from your posts, I know you agree with Kay's logic posts on bessie/heury, and mentioned the paranoia there, is that your main reasoning, or is there anything else?

Also, sorry, what does the yeah, all right category mean? Neutral?

More-or-less yeah, a lot of Kays posts felt rather mindmeldy and I like how open she was about playing scum in the previous instance, I think scum would've tried to use that position of the "expert" for their advantage instead of backing out of it.
And yes, the "all right" category is a mild townlean based on the absence of anything suspicious or odd

I don’t think I’m voting anyone today but it’d probably be somi if I was forced.

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Although I don't feel inclined (or entitled) to vote today either.

So your conclusion is that I am unfairly scumreading deadbananas due to an honest mistake on their part starting off the game? A lot of their content since then has washed out any initial peculiarities my read on him had.

Well, my opinion is that, but what I really wanted to figure out (although never asked you properly) is what, in your mind, makes the difference between deadbananas and me or EGW making the same mistake.
And of course I would like to hear how their subsequent posting has tempered your opinion, thanks for the offer

On fading into background vs standing out:
Accuse me of bias for how I've playing, but im going to come out against the consensus again on this one. I think its a totally valid scum strategy to chill in the background this game, there is no risk of chillers being normal voted out day 1, which often happens in most games. Instead they can let a few obv town people pair up, and let other louder town draw attention and make mistakes, as any town is likely to do, and point to that in the endgame. Just my two thoughts.

I guess the mathematical chances do improve for scum as the game goes on and an apparent lack of interest in leaving could work to their advantage.

yeah its all dayplay and all kinda like pro LAMIST because mafia can't punish you going turbo mode townie with an NK, they just have to hope you just gtfo the game or that you're pocketable

Yeah, it's kind of interesting that if mafia want someone gone their only way is convincing them to peace out.

I'm out of practice on remembering my forum games exist, as well as not feeling pressed to be townread when I am not voting today. It's not deeper than that. I'll do a deep dive slot by slot at the start of day 2 and people can get more informed opinions on me.

I wouldn't mind knowing where you're mind is right now

Also gutcheck reaction to EGW is very town. See's a player sort of low efforting on the outside, in the lower half of most peoples reads and they want to engage and sort me in a non combative way, quote replying to make sure I see it and then trying to live interact with me. Sort of feels like scum could just hope i'd stay frozen out and not be a fall candidate all game (this won't happen but EGW can't really know that).

I'm inclined to agree and I like the tone of this response

[EGW]

I guess the mathematical chances do improve for scum as the game goes on and an apparent lack of interest in leaving could work to their advantage.

Yet we can control who flip, as long as people don't deviate. Usually mafia control that pace with night kills, but they don't have that leverage in this game. So I'm curious what pairs you are comfortable with.

[KayJayQueue]

I like greedy’s responses except the part where he forgot about the game but that’s just because I’m self centered and want to believe a game with me would be higher on his priorities list since we haven’t gotten to play together in months and I want to feel important lol

[KayJayQueue]

I think the person I’m finding it hardest to fully understand their development around multiple slots is deadbananas and this is probably only because there’s more content to digest than others. That being said, I don’t have a great grasp on heury or moody right now and greedy is just a vibes feel since not much content has been produced outside of townreading me which is easy for him to fall back on if scum. So I’m not going to let it decide much for me yet.

It probably has to do with the opinion on me. I’m fixated on it because it’s about me and I’m me, so I care. Thr progress being: townleans me, reiterates that nothing has changed minus a small bump up for liking somi yet turns around and comes up with a “viable” scum team involving me from their pov which then doesn’t really work with the previous stated read. It’s just confusing and I’m wondering if it’s actual town paranoia or if it’s trying to instill paranoia about me in others or just keeping me as a target to sus. I can’t quite figure it out.