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Makhaira wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 4:18 pm @Adum I meant "iterative" not "interative", that was an autocorrect typo

I kinda get what you mean about Wam but I'm not entirely sold here, dont think he's the play here

Gonna be real, town keeps losing games here because we are playing with no consideration for building winning endgame coalitions. We need to stop doing that. Not trying to be a jerk but there are some players in here with abysmal track records making the right call in endgame and Im frankly sick of losing over and over the same way

Should be fred or wurst today, I'm fine with bessie but I'm not sure she will be as popular a pick. Interested to see if fred comes thru with a decent alternative case before deadline

I don't think you've ever played with the worst, but he is a long-standing veteran that you want in that coalition. His D1 play is always a bit Ducky.

bessie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:01 am

Makhaira wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 1:20 am Bessie posting almost all filler is suss and thea seeming to have a positive reaction to her first post that actually provides slivers of reads set off scum pings for me but that would be strangely obvious buddying for the slot, maybe scum!thea trying to pocket bessie? Or maybe I'm not parsing these quotes correctly

Not true. I posted a Woof-Grr list with reasons. Have you done the same?

Your woof/grrr list was based on reactions to Madge not doing confirmation posts and reactions to your reactions. It even included the mods on the bottom.

Yes, you posted one but trying to use this against an accusation of filler content is disingenuous.

AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:35 pm Bessie: Their engagement in the game lacks substance. The only things that's come of it with scum hunting significance was the freddino conversation which frankly was purely by accident and "why not respectful?". Willing to elim out of nullness.

I disagree that my content lacks substance. My content lacks volume; you are confusing the two.

No, you have volume, consolidated into a few posts. You lack substance, as in substance for the game. I enjoyed talking Joyce with you, but it's not actually game relevant.

AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 5:00 pm Thea: null, I'm sympathetic to Santy's argument that it's play that would help scum more than town, but given it's not only not a one off and consistent after drew suspicion I think it's some type of Seven like play with some specific benefit intended from it.

Still, if it's gonna continue and they don't find a way to use it to express more nuanced game specific context they're just a burden on the game and should be yeeted.

I disagree with this. Thea’s intent is understandable to those willing to read her content with an open mind. I think this is a lazy read and I think the issue you have with it is either (1) a manufactured issue, or (2) it differs from what you are used to seeing, and you are having trouble processing it so your reaction is negative.

Ok, tell me specifically WHY Thea townreads me and explain how their reaction quote conveys that.

Santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:20 am Can you elaborate in your thea townread bessie?

Yes. I feel Thea’s self-imposed post restriction is something she is doing for fun, possibly for role playing. If it is role playing, I currently have no hope in figuring it out so I’m not even going to try. If the gambit is to gather information, I am willing to wait and see her conclusions. And while I am waiting, I am using the reactions to her content to refine my own reads.

I think her reaction to the backlash has been townie.

Seven wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:21 am Please explain these.

Mostly gut. I spent almost two hours on the daily bark and I know I won't have time for a detailed analysis,

Your position is mostly from lack of content, and I acknowledge that you have been sick.

Santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:28 pm And both thea and seven sheeping your vote is a super bad look. Looking specifically to @Seven because I expect that them would value my townread there more or at least engage to it instead of feigning ignorance to it and conveniently sheep

For the record, I didn't even see your post about you shielding Wam until after I voted. Though I'm not sure if it would have affected whether or not I voted.

bessie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:48 am

Seven wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:21 am Please explain these.

Mostly gut. I spent almost two hours on the daily bark and I know I won't have time for a detailed analysis,

Your position is mostly from lack of content, and I acknowledge that you have been sick.

I guess JC and Adum are the ones I'm most curious about. Do you have reasons for those other than gut?

Seven wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:52 am

Santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:28 pm And both thea and seven sheeping your vote is a super bad look. Looking specifically to @Seven because I expect that them would value my townread there more or at least engage to it instead of feigning ignorance to it and conveniently sheep

For the record, I didn't even see your post about you shielding Wam until after I voted. Though I'm not sure if it would have affected whether or not I voted.

You recognized my read and tried to veto my veto on the Wam wagon

bessie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:44 am

Santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:20 am Can you elaborate in your thea townread bessie?

Yes. I feel Thea’s self-imposed post restriction is something she is doing for fun, possibly for role playing. If it is role playing, I currently have no hope in figuring it out so I’m not even going to try. If the gambit is to gather information, I am willing to wait and see her conclusions. And while I am waiting, I am using the reactions to her content to refine my own reads.

I think her reaction to the backlash has been townie.

I mean, she can be doing it for fun as any alignment. That isnt towny.

What in specific about their reaction to the backlas did you like?

Santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:55 am

Seven wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:52 am

Santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:28 pm And both thea and seven sheeping your vote is a super bad look. Looking specifically to @Seven because I expect that them would value my townread there more or at least engage to it instead of feigning ignorance to it and conveniently sheep

For the record, I didn't even see your post about you shielding Wam until after I voted. Though I'm not sure if it would have affected whether or not I voted.

You recognized my read and tried to veto my veto on the Wam wagon

The post I quoted here was prior to that recognition.

Unvote Thea
Vote Fred

Think Im okay with this. Fred has given us close to nothing and not yeeting them because of potential to be more easy to solve later is just not it for me.

Thea there is a sliver of chance going by one post they did that the restriction is role-indicative or will be off tomorrow maybe. But idk.


Today yeet should be between Fred/Thea/Seven

Seven wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:01 am

Santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:55 am

Seven wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:52 am For the record, I didn't even see your post about you shielding Wam until after I voted. Though I'm not sure if it would have affected whether or not I voted.

You recognized my read and tried to veto my veto on the Wam wagon

The post I quoted here was prior to that recognition.

Doesnt change my issue with you contesting my townread on Wam and providing no content whatsoever on why you scumread them.

You claim that initially you didnt saw my townread. Whatever.
Later you saw it and openly challenged/contested it, so the point you are making is moot and Im still holding you accountable for what you said.

And instead of giving insights on why you are scumreading someone, you decided to instead start rereading thread ad ignoring/posponing my request all together. Which just indicates to me that your scumread on Wam was just fake and you arent focused on yeeting them / actually believe in it

Why Thea over Fred?

Seven wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 8:25 am

Freddino18 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 5:23 am

bessie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:36 pm An effort to correct a past mistake. Acceptable because he is a relative newbie to the game. Would be unacceptable from an experienced player.

Actually that was a genuine confirm, hadn't read my role until then

Interesting. I take it, then, you were going to attempt to play the game, or at least the phase, without knowing your alignment, but your curiosity got the better of you? This leads me to suspect that you kept receiving messages by your scum mates. I suspect that if you had just received the one message from the game start, you would have been able to hold onto the playing-blind attempt, but that receiving multiple messages inadvertently revealed to you that you were scum and nudged you toward the temptation of checking.

Vote: Fred

That lines with your “not reading” DW post as well.

Specially considering that for thea you only voted them sheeping me.
And this was your last post/read regarding Fred .
(In which you just unvoted to just sheep Adum's vote, on a scumread Im waiting you to actually justify the reasoning and you arent providing)

OK I'm finally caught up. Ignore my previous question bessie, I just read your most recent daily bark and that explains your JC/Adum positions.

alright im back way less tilted now

sorry for the aggro worst but I cannot stand people claiming victim status when their own poor play or lack of contribution makes their own slot elim bait. especially on D1 is is literally being like wahhhhhh I hate consequences for not contributing wahhhhh like its insufferable just apologize for not carrying your weight and move on, if you're actually town you can play better and make up for it, scum always want to pin blame on others and argue D1 schelling points are "lazy" and "bad play" as convenient excuses to shame other people out of holding a slot accountable for being dead weight

anyway moving on, worst actually contributing and engaging with other slots without me chastising the slot reads town to me. atleast worst showed up for deadline, fred didnt

Vote: Fred

Could also go for bessie here, havent liked any of her posts tbh

thea push is wild to me and I cant wait to get on for saying this if its a red flip but I think town!thea knows she is racking up cred debt and will have to pay in interest next phase and we can read based on that eventual payout. I dont think scum!thea creates a free schelling point on herself by doing this bit, its like too blatantly antitown and from what little scumplay ive seen from thea doesnt fit this approach. not saying its out of a range just riskier than Id expect

100% think bessie and fred are better plays, so if we're all doing vetos I veto the thea wagon, trust

I think the scum team is bessie/Thea/Mak, potentially JC instead of Mak.

cant wait to get shit on* for saying this if its a red flip

I will be on at deadline its not as late as I thought so I can chat all night on and off, Ill be multitasking but around

Seven wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:17 am I think the scum team is bessie/Thea/Mak, potentially JC instead of Mak.

love the gusto but you're wrong here, not saying bessie/thea isnt possible but you know thea is elim bait you're better than this

Makhaira wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:18 am

Seven wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:17 am I think the scum team is bessie/Thea/Mak, potentially JC instead of Mak.

love the gusto but you're wrong here, not saying bessie/thea isnt possible but you know thea is elim bait you're better than this

I don't scum read Thea for the bit. I scum read her for her reads.

fred has done nothing bessie has done nothing and if we're building winning endgames we cannot throw out town!thea like this, we actually finally have some depth in this game

Seven wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:19 am

Makhaira wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:18 am

Seven wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:17 am I think the scum team is bessie/Thea/Mak, potentially JC instead of Mak.

love the gusto but you're wrong here, not saying bessie/thea isnt possible but you know thea is elim bait you're better than this

I don't scum read Thea for the bit. I scum read her for her reads.

ok walk me thru whats off

Makhaira wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:19 am fred has done nothing bessie has done nothing and if we're building winning endgames we cannot throw out town!thea like this, we actually finally have some depth in this game

Fred always plays like this early on. As Adum said, he'll get more readable as the game goes on and his reads end up being the most accurate of anyone.