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I would rather wait for Wam's reaction to my pointing out issues with his arguments. And if he just votes me and you don't, I have my answer and I can play confidently.Makhaira wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:54 am if you dont have the WIM think of it this way, everyone else in the game townread me so if they got snowed and you got snowed literally no one can pin the loss on you, not that Im saying that should be your primary consideration, but its to my point that if Im scum this game I pretty solidly just deserve to win at this point because Ive played my magnum opus game
or Im just fucking town
and when you vote wam and I dont alpha you will very quickly have the answer in front of you and all you have to do is help me see it, if you're town
you literally don't give town!me any more info if you are scum because I already know its between you and wam from my POV. and if you're town you make your endgame lift much easier because from your POV you will have the literal solve
Why?Makhaira wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 5:06 am youre going to waste a lot of valuable time waiting for wam to show up or for me to make a mistake because we havent heard anything from him in this final stretch so far and im not going to make a mistake because I can't slip because Im not scum
this really just feels like a pretense to keep your options open or hope that you can somehow get wam to go for me ugh
keep me open as an option literally increases your chance of victory from 50/50 to 66.66% on paper if you feel confident in your ability to push either miselimAdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 5:12 amWhy?Makhaira wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 5:06 am youre going to waste a lot of valuable time waiting for wam to show up or for me to make a mistake because we havent heard anything from him in this final stretch so far and im not going to make a mistake because I can't slip because Im not scum
this really just feels like a pretense to keep your options open or hope that you can somehow get wam to go for me ugh
What would it benefit me to not just confidently go for the obvious choice in this gamestate as scum?
And you'd be surprised how easy it is to make an obvious mistake.
My point is that by your rationale, I should be locktown because I apparently snowed every town player.Makhaira wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 5:10 am I dont think bessie locktowning you and not me carries the weight you think it does
also scum!you could 100% use TMI to dodge being on the santy misyeet to get a little sliver of town equity for yourself in endgame cmon thats not actually anything AI for you
Except I'm sacrificing any semblance of town control to do it, which is much more important, in a game with a really obvious victory point. Last game day you agreed with thea that I was probably town due purely to mech even if you didn't like my play. Confidently going after Wam was the scum-adum play period.Makhaira wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 5:15 amkeep me open as an option literally increases your chance of victory from 50/50 to 66.66% on paper if you feel confident in your ability to push either miselimAdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 5:12 amWhy?Makhaira wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 5:06 am youre going to waste a lot of valuable time waiting for wam to show up or for me to make a mistake because we havent heard anything from him in this final stretch so far and im not going to make a mistake because I can't slip because Im not scum
this really just feels like a pretense to keep your options open or hope that you can somehow get wam to go for me ugh
What would it benefit me to not just confidently go for the obvious choice in this gamestate as scum?
And you'd be surprised how easy it is to make an obvious mistake.
last sentence is a complete non answer bro come ON
why would it matter whether a slot multitasked at night if your watcher power simply returns the role name of anyone that targets your target at night?
lol crazy shroop here if you're scum adumAdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:47 pmAnd what about after Seven's argument that the cop results cancel each other out and that I am be a godfather?Wam wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:40 pmBecause of sevens resultAdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:35 pm
And why'd you unvote me here? https://ramenchef.net/nxf/viewtopic.php?p=79290#p79290
Bro, this is a game about mechanical interactions and how people react to them. It wasn't just that those interactions happened, it was that it was incredibly weird for me to play the way I did given that mech, and Seven, thea, and Fredd's reads on me all came after those interactions were thoroughly questioned. Fredd gave my townread the same weight as his madge town read in millerizer.
this is an interesting post because I think it is one of the only ones where somi interacts with both adum and wam hmmmmmsomitomi wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:34 pm CatchupDo keep in mind that this is a fringe theory rattling in my mind that I myself mostly disregarded in the same post, but yeah, Adum will in all likelyhood be night killed sometime before the game is over, at which point this gambit could pay off big time.bessie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2024 11:30 pm Interesting! You suspect scum!Seven derail an almost guaranteed yeet of the strongest and towniest player in the game just for town cred! Even though if Adum is not eliminated, Adum’s alignment is not confirmed so the town cred Seven is trying for may or may not happen! I think your reasoning is scummyCan you elaborate on this theory about only two people targeting Adum, because I don't see how that would work. Also, spilled milk but if you suspect someone of being a doctor it's generally a good idea to keep that to yourself.Freddino18 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:56 am To be frank, I think Adum is a Doctor, and only got targeted by two people. I feel like there's one Mafia between Bessie, Seven, and Wam, and I think that leaving Seven and Bessie in provides the most readable content in the case that I'm wrong on Wam. Mak is a weird slot for me, but I'm inclined to lean town. I'm always wrong about JC, so I hesitate to put him to either side. I do believe that you have a kill, Santy, but your openness reads as either bait as non-vig town or a genuine claim. My thoughts on the rest are jumbled, but I'm inclined to trust Thea on the others.Or at least that everyone visiting Adum was the cop ore one of the several Jacks of all trade we apparently have.
I also shrooped my scumbuddy Thea this game!Makhaira wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 5:34 amlol crazy shroop here if you're scum adumAdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:47 pmAnd what about after Seven's argument that the cop results cancel each other out and that I am be a godfather?
possible moody TMI slip heremoody7277 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:09 pmSo there are. Interesting that...
wait wtf bessie copped me? how did I miss that?AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 5:34 am
Do you think that Bessie's cop on you didn't come into play for people's read on you?
Uh, are you serious bro? Day 4 start post.Makhaira wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 5:52 amwait wtf bessie copped me? how did I miss that?AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 5:34 am
Do you think that Bessie's cop on you didn't come into play for people's read on you?
madge wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:41 am
Jack of all Trades used Parrot
Jack of all Trades used Doctor
[Makhaira] is [Town]
Jack of all Trades used Role Watcher
Bessie was killed in the night. She was Doc Brown, Compulsive Variable-Reliability Publishing Cop, aligned with Town.
With 7 alive, it is 4 to hammer (not a typo this time either).
It is now Day 4. Night 4 will end in 3 days (https://www.tickcounter.com/countdown/6 ... riday-sale) - this is a shorter deadline than normal, but there’s not as many of you, so I’m sure you’ll figure it out.
I'm not asking why it isn't TMI. I know it wasn't TMI because I knew that he was the only person who hadn't been copped town.Makhaira wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 6:11 am ill be real I wrote bessie off completely when she wasn't full claiming when she very objectively should have
but yeah thats on me
but wam saying that isn't TMI I mean both of us would have claimed town results on me, seven said they cleared you N1 as well, so to be fair from his POV one of use would have to be BF assuming there isnt more to cop reliability than was claimed or understood