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That's what he said? IDK what else to tell you
My reading of this is 'Oh, here we were supposed to be working together as Town but madge throws something in that makes it sound like it's actually a survivor wincon'.
Possibly bad, borderline angleshoot reason, but:
IMHO the bolded part is coming from Town the overwhelming majority of the time.Freddino18 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:46 am I am dropping out, but will play until a suitable replacement can be found.
I do not have the energy this time around to deal with daily post obligations and my wildly changing schedule. I hope whoever takes this slot is able to kill whoever wrote Javascript pick up where I left off without any undue suspicion from my general lack of posting.
It makes reading you much trickier, which is a pro and a con...heuristically_alone wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:09 pm Someday I'll get a coach to help me explain my thoughts
LaserGuy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:30 pmI do find it vaguely amusing that I am being scumread by Adum for 'being good enough not to make mistakes', when my ISO this game is absolutely littered with a bazillion typos, misquotes, and misunderstandings like this oneSeven wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 6:50 amHe's saying that your main reason for finding bessie suspicious is her not doing a read list. (But that was George's reasoning, not yours).LaserGuy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 6:49 am
I've posted a number of reads throughout the game so far. I won't do a full readslist until much closer to EoD, but I've been posting my thoughts in thread about people as I go. I have made reads of you, moody, Makhaira, BoomFrog, Adum, bessie and EGW so far..
Hey, long time no see
Yes. Who is scum at this point, Bessie? I would have expected you to be tunneling someone at this point.
I've seen new player scum do this. They ignored my pressure until I released it, and their flavor gimmick was inconsistent. Newbie scum care about their image, and try to seem calm and composed when that isn't the answer to pressure. Also again, Gluelock's initial post pinged me.
Talk me through this.
Why?
This is true. It still annoys me to this day.LaserGuy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 6:35 amI can't remember exactly how it came out, but I definitely know the name and some details of this story, so it's been around for awhile. It may have been in osie's game where you/fonti/bessie/Sabrar were scum and you had a big fight with Ran in D1? I knew what you were asking about when you brought up the name to Theallieza in WWZ so it's stuck in my memory somehow.
Somi is pretty easy to read for me, I have noted that when he is scum, he is agreeable, and when he is town he will intentionally argue with you to determine a read on you.
Alright, can you explain why you moved your vote to Bessie? Why no break down for the reads at the time of you posting that image?
As it stands, without prior knowledge of everyones meta, looking at how I'm being read by others has been helpful to me. Normally, people have a tough time reading me D1 and I'm often even scum-read early on. The fact that Mak naturally came to this conclusion rather than trying to force something one way or another helps me see them as town.
Why is moody so high?
Nope, just bonding.
Oh, is that a "would I do this as scum post" I spy?heuristically_alone wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:48 pm I challenge anyone to find any scum game of me where I've ever defended my scum partner.
Ah, so you see it as a newbie-scum thing rather than a newbie-general thing.EGW wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:35 pm I've seen new player scum do this. They ignored my pressure until I released it, and their flavor gimmick was inconsistent. Newbie scum care about their image, and try to seem calm and composed when that isn't the answer to pressure. Also again, Gluelock's initial post pinged me.
Could you perhaps set an avatar? It's easier for image recognition subsystems to identify your posts that way.
Just so you know I didn't ignore this post, I wasn't phased at all by the early vote on me. Like it was so early in the game it didn't even occur to me to be concerned or change how I behaved.EGW wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 12:32 am I'm not concerned in any secret that LaserGuy has. The reason I asked was because that the time frame is exactly the same for my posts in this game and that one, which is why I thought it to be odd. So him remaining on me doesn't make sense without any additional or new reason. On your second paragraph, you being new doesn't invalidate the fact that you know your role pm, and will act accordingly, and especially since you posted soon after I posted content. You were lurking while there was a vote on you. Generally newer players will try to act calm or avoid pressure to seem composed, that's my concern with you.
I'm amused that no one questioned such a provocative statement until now. I guess that's two parts my reputation as a mysterious mind-reader and one part that most people read Glue as town or neutral. Anyway this post:
This post was so.... carefree. He didn't care if +1i was a good or bad thing. He casually declared me town based on literally nothing. He was just having fun with the role playing. It's too relaxed for scum.
Thank you, I'm gonna reread your slot in light of this.
This wouldn't be such poor reasoning before I posted my read list. My RVS vote WAS explained there, all it took was putting two and two together.P.S. My vote on Adum is still standing for good reason. He's avoided talking about his RSV vote and tried to move the game on by playing the good townie. But everything he's done has just been trying to find someone else to focus on. His defense against Seven's early accusation was overly verbose, townie confidence would have caused him to post a much shorter "I know the difference between scum and anti-town play." but instead he feels the need to reference past games to justify his behavior. That's someone overly concerned with being consistent with their townie games. His scum hunting really ramped up after Seven and I accused him because he knew he needed to take control of D1.
The vote wasn't random, at all. I wanted to see how Bessie reacted and get a conversation going so I could understand them better.AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:09 am System.out.println("
Bessie: I ain't got no clue how to read this slot. That's why I was making every excuse to talk to them so I could try to get into their head. The posting pattern makes it even harder. Null.
Being verbose in defense isn't a scumtell, holy shit.His defense against Seven's early accusation was overly verbose, townie confidence would have caused him to post a much shorter "I know the difference between scum and anti-town play." but instead he feels the need to reference past games to justify his behavior
Not quite as bad as the rest of your rationale but I'd been subtly questioning and interacting with people to try to get where their head's at through most of the game. Laserfrog happened to be the first that I had a significant scumtell on.His scum hunting really ramped up after Seven and I accused him because he knew he needed to take control of D1.
LaserGuy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:01 pmThis is a great read. 100% agreeFreddino18 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:46 am I am dropping out, but will play until a suitable replacement can be found.
I do not have the energy this time around to deal with daily post obligations and my wildly changing schedule. I hope whoever takes this slot is able to kill whoever wrote Javascript pick up where I left off without any undue suspicion from my general lack of posting.
IMHO the bolded part is coming from Town the overwhelming majority of the time.
I think bessie (and heury) have much higher scum equity than you at the moment, so that's where I'm going to put my vote. I haven't forgotten about you, I just have other avenues I feel more strongly about.
Not usually, no. In the game you are talking about, I was VT trying to draw the night kill so I was Towning as hard as I possibly could, so yes, I was super obvTown. I don't really think it's fair to send you on a fishing expedition for meta, but suffice to say in the next outing as Town after that one (TIL Mafia) I probably averaged a marginal Townread and was misyeeted around D4. The following game (Apex Mafia) I was almost universally scumread and was misyeeted uncontested in D1. All of those were awhile ago though, but I'm pretty all over the map as far as how I am perceived.EGW wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:35 pm LaserGuy dropping their pressure on me doesn't make sense. I think Bessie has some scum equity here, but I would expect LaserGuy to tunnel me with confidence at this point if he truly believed it, and again this seems like a reserved LaserGuy here. When he's town, he's obv town (to my annoyance, I remember that argument in the game he referenced where Zen and I fought).
In Sorc mafia you were active in the thread as of Page 2. This game your entrance was very late, in my estimation. I hadn't actually looked at Sorc mafia when I made that read of you, and was more relying on my internal meta of you, but when I did go check, it validated my suspicion. The fact that you feel self-conscious about making sure your entrance was the same in both games is kind of odd and definitely pings me though. The other thing that I'm keeping track of with respect to you I'm still kind of on the fence on as to whether or not it is significant.I also think his assessment of me is unfair and intentionally ignoring that I entered the same exact manner into Sorcerer Mafia as I did in this game.
Bessie won't have time for real analysis (and potential tunneling) until the weekend. Please don't judge her slot based on not matching your perceived schedule of the game, you will not get a good read that way and I'll be annoyed at how much time she spends being annoyed at you. She might be scum, but this is not a scum tell for her.
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Don't know Fonti, but gut read is they're a like a swiss level scum player, and this is a town player going "holy shit I fucked up" with that argument, but still being unsure of my slot and checking with Seven to figure out if I could've faked all that material, and that feels like a townie reaction.
