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Sabrar wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2025 6:44 pm madge was able to act both N1 and N2 while having a mark (if we believe her). Mark and RB should be independent abilities.

phillip1882 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2025 7:58 pm i'm pretty sure i can no longer use my ability, i'm only allowed 2 uses, ahippo used one and i used one. that my action failed i don't think i can use it again. but i'll confirm with the moderator

Santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2025 8:49 pm

phillip1882 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2025 7:58 pm i'm pretty sure i can no longer use my ability, i'm only allowed 2 uses, ahippo used one and i used one. that my action failed i don't think i can use it again. but i'll confirm with the moderator

It really wasted a use to target a non eligible target (moody) ??? Lol??? That makes no sense to me

Sabrar wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2025 6:05 pm @somitomi: would you have that complete claim-list you mentioned earlier?

	shepherd	lord	game
Boom	no		YES	BERSERIA	(joat)
Sabrar	yes		no	Zestiria	(michael, jailer)
Mak	yes 		no	Zestiria	TOWN
Santy	yes		yes	Berseria	(bodyguard)
EGW	yes		no	Zestiria	(calamity cop)
wam	no		yes	Zestiria	MALEVOLENCE
philip	yes		no	Zestiria	(Sergei, motivator)
Bop	no		yes	Berseria	SUPPRESSION
madge	yes		no	both?		MALEVOLENCE
heury	no		yes	BERSERIA	(2-shot masoning vig)
JC	yes		NO	ZESTIRIA	(tracker)
somi	no		yes	Berseria	(game cop)
moody	no		yes	Berseria	TOWN

Santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 4:09 am Current gamestate feels like town is going to likely win, and is being town-dominated with some p good clears. EGW WIM seems to be at -1000. And they have p good equity with Bop .

Reads-wise Im at EGW>>Somi>>>> Frog>Phillip>>JC>>>Sabrar/Heury .

Bop as scum never took the opportunity to push EGW despite most of the thread doing that (he looked very bad with how off their reads were). Why Bop doesnt do that? Does they not care about the cop? (Either they didnt felt threatened or needed them as misyeet, or well... They were keeping their partner as a townread) . EGW-Bop never pushed each other aswell.

Bop-somi main point is firstly Bop dissonance in how they read Bop (first a neutral read when everyone else was clearing them for how bubblez ATEd at EoD , to then in D3 had them as neutral leaning town with a SUPER charitable take. Like 'good questions' to someone who was solving mostly on mech is wild. Please compare how they read/treated me with the somi read. Is night and day imo) . And the most important thing is that *they didnt cared to wait for somi to claim their flavor* if Bop was that interested to solve and curious of that, how is that waiting for somi was skipped in their solve (mind you, since the multiball aspect of the game, the flavor solving here is genuine). One very possible answer is that *they already knew* what somi would claim , they didnt cared to solve somi to begin with.

moody7277 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:02 pm The reason I think somi is town is he replaced in for Bubblez, who had that massive meltdown EoD1 that I read as frustrated newish town. I have BF and Sab as fairly solidly town, the latter's opinion meaning I should have heury as town as well. Of the other 4, I feel most comfortable about JC.

boomfrog wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:56 pmEGW has lost all whim which is what I expect from scum!EGW in a multiball where he's lost his other ball to chase. Plus being hopelessly outnumbered.

boomfrog wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:52 pm@Sabrar if somi comes back with a confirmation on EGW'S claim would we not yeet him? I think that doesn't change our decision so it's a waste to check. It won't be conclusive evidence. Not sure if there's a better plan.

boomfrog wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 5:01 am

Santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 4:09 am Current gamestate feels like town is going to likely win, and is being town-dominated with some p good clears. EGW WIM seems to be at -1000. And they have p good equity with Bop .

Reads-wise Im at EGW>>Somi>>>> Frog>Phillip>>JC>>>Sabrar/Heury .

Bop as scum never took the opportunity to push EGW despite most of the thread doing that (he looked very bad with how off their reads were). Why Bop doesnt do that? Does they not care about the cop? (Either they didnt felt threatened or needed them as misyeet, or well... They were keeping their partner as a townread) . EGW-Bop never pushed each other aswell.

Bop-somi main point is firstly Bop dissonance in how they read Bop (first a neutral read when everyone else was clearing them for how bubblez ATEd at EoD , to then in D3 had them as neutral leaning town with a SUPER charitable take. Like 'good questions' to someone who was solving mostly on mech is wild. Please compare how they read/treated me with the somi read. Is night and day imo) . And the most important thing is that *they didnt cared to wait for somi to claim their flavor* if Bop was that interested to solve and curious of that, how is that waiting for somi was skipped in their solve (mind you, since the multiball aspect of the game, the flavor solving here is genuine). One very possible answer is that *they already knew* what somi would claim , they didnt cared to solve somi to begin with.

Bop partner with somi would want to let somi claim so they get more credit. Bop repeatedly pointed out that somi's claim wasn't clearing. I'm pretty sure they are unaligned.

You make good points about EGW, I agree we shouldn't assume any role is 100% town. But I can believe scum ahippo using his real motivator as a suspicion escape card and N2 Bop coaching phillip to withhold marking N3 and claim to have been marked. I've got a strong meta town read on EGW. But yeah, if you and phillip are both town, than I think EGW is next.

boomfrog wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 5:03 am @Santy, if you are scum you are one of the best players I've ever played with. But I still believe it.