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Re: Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D3]
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 12:24 am
by Makhaira
Im not yeeting wam I want to see what he does with my motivated powers, im not wasting my night action like that and will resent yall if you do that but would forgive you if he actually flips scum
Its moody or bessie today, I think all other plays are frankly really dumb but maybe im the one who is being dumb
Im about to board a flight but should land like 20-30 min before deadline to help lock in an elim, see you all then
Re: Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D3]
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 12:26 am
by Makhaira
AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 12:23 am
Or Mak, since Seven dipped. Did you happen to read Bingo Mafia back in the day?
I did not
Re: Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D3]
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 12:36 am
by Theallieza
AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:58 pm
EBWOP: Corrected for errant quote tag:
Theallieza wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 10:33 pm
I think yeeting Wam potentially gives info about a bunch of people, but on okay, especially this phase, I think he is 70-80% town. Don't see what's so strange about it
"Gut read" is soft support for his townieness, and you were actively supporting the yeet at the time.
And then, after Seven joined and planned to push people towards the yeet, you actively disapprove of it, say it's from play, and take issue in part because the yeet you supported for information is preferred by two people you're suspicious of, people you'd presumably want information on, and people who already preferred a Wam yeet before you made the comment.
Now you're back to saying it's a good informational yeet.
unvote
I am not sure I understand what you are trying to say. It is both a good info yeet and it is likely a miss. You and Santy seem hellbent on ign
Wam is not and never has been my preferred yeet. I would rather yeet scum, generally.
Re: Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D3]
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 12:44 am
by Makhaira
Sabrar wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2024 4:13 pm
Votals:
moody - 4 - Seven., Thea., Fred., wam.
Makhaira - 2 - moody., bessie.
bessie - 1 - Makhaira.
Adum - 1 - Adum.
wam - 1 - Santygrass.
Not voting: nobody
9 players alive and 6 to hammer
This was the last official votecount I could find. From this post votes should now be as follows;
moody - 4 - Thea, Fred, Mak, Wam
Makhaira - 2 - moody, bessie
wam - 1 - Santygrass
Re: Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D3]
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 12:45 am
by Makhaira
About to take off, flight got a little delayed so theres a chance I will have mere minutes to check thread on landing before deadline. If yall yeet anyone other than bessie or moody and its a town flip Im getting medieval on your ass tomorrow
Re: Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D3]
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 12:48 am
by AdumbroDeus
Makhaira wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 12:26 am
AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 12:23 am
Or Mak, since Seven dipped. Did you happen to read Bingo Mafia back in the day?
I did not
It's a game burned into my memory because I made a clear mistake.
Chaco defended a townie that was the obvious yeet in a way that made little sense. I started to realize, but chose to ask Marshy before unvoting. His partner quick-yeeted and Chaco then used the towncred to get me yeeted (though he messed up by quickyeeting).
I'm starting to think I was wrong about Wam all game and Thea's defense is coming from an over-informed perspective.
I don't I can do anything about it now, but you're right that we shouldn't go after Wam toDay.
Re: Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D3]
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 12:59 am
by AdumbroDeus
Bessie's here, hopefully that means we get an explanation.
Moody, you're the presumptive yeet, if you're not scum please give final thoughts.
Re: Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D3]
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:03 am
by AdumbroDeus
Less than an hour til deadline
Re: Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D3]
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:05 am
by bessie
Hurried bark.
Makhaira wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:30 pm
Why are we swinging back to the slot that was competing with our red flip for elim yesterday I dont understand how wam is more likely to be scum than moody or bessie like at all
Just because Wam was a counter wagon doesn’t make him town. Why are you defending wam so hard?
Seven wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:46 pm
Bessie can you explain the cycling of your role in full? I’m having issues with a couple of things you’ve claimed. Namely the compulsive element and the resolving before the night kill element. Those sound sort of made up? I have a hard time seeing either Madge or Sabrar making anything compulsive. I’d be happy to be shown wrong though. Is there an example of them using compulsive before?
Resolving before the night kill would be such a strange deviation from NAR. It’s also strange that you claimed that aspect. Keeping it secret would have allowed you to use your sane action tonight without scum knowing they would have to roleblock you.
I think it might be best to vote you for that reason alone, even putting the weirdness of the role aside.
1. I already did.
2. Your issues are your own problem.
3. Well, perhaps you don’t exist on the same astral plane as Madge and Sabrar after all.
4. I don’t have time to search the archive.
5. Where did the mods say they were using NAR per MafiaScum?
6. How is it a deviation? The kill doesn’t affect an investigation so both can be resolved (refer to the Golden Rule).
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ormal_Game
Anyway, this:
Killing doesn't stop the actions of the dead player. (Imagine that all kills happen at the end of the night, and everyone pulls the trigger simultaneously.) This means that kills generally do not affect other actions for the purpose of the Golden Rule.
7. My claim was necessary to explain my N2 action. So what, scum has to roleblock me. Why don’t you watch me to see who does it.
8. Ok, vote for me. Mak is voting for me too.
FoS Seven for accusing me of something without looking up the source material.
Theallieza wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 6:05 pm
Oooooohhhh... Good catch!
That's very interesting.
Fos Theallieza, for reasons refer to Seven (above).
AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 8:25 pm
Oops, I'm a dumbass. I read the venue issues as related to checking a few hours before deadline but it was for getting on at deadline.
So hopefully she does get on a few hours before.
Also
@Bessie you should probably drop your vote on either moody or Wam
I’m currently voting for my scummiest pick but would switch to Wam if needed.
Seven wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:59 pm
--However, if she died, she wouldn't have to worry about that because her action wouldn't be posted.
I said my action resolves before the kill, so it would be posted.
Seven wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:52 pm
What about his play is town? I think you're putting too much stock into the fact that he Watched Adum, and think you should ignore it.
I agree and I’ve discussed this a couple of times I think, that Wam is a good enough player to use the D2 opening post to fabricate his own night results, especially if somi copped me. Why is no one reading my posts?
I’m leaving soon if you have any questions for me make it quick.
Re: Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D3]
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:06 am
by moody7277
Mak and wam seem the likeliest scum to me.
Any suspicion of bessie I think is ludicrous
Cynical View is still bugging me about Thea and Fred pulling the wool over everyone's eyes.
I Have Spoken
Re: Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D3]
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:09 am
by Theallieza
bessie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:05 am
Hurried bark.
Makhaira wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:30 pm
Why are we swinging back to the slot that was competing with our red flip for elim yesterday I dont understand how wam is more likely to be scum than moody or bessie like at all
Just because Wam was a counter wagon doesn’t make him town. Why are you defending wam so hard?
Seven wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:46 pm
Bessie can you explain the cycling of your role in full? I’m having issues with a couple of things you’ve claimed. Namely the compulsive element and the resolving before the night kill element. Those sound sort of made up? I have a hard time seeing either Madge or Sabrar making anything compulsive. I’d be happy to be shown wrong though. Is there an example of them using compulsive before?
Resolving before the night kill would be such a strange deviation from NAR. It’s also strange that you claimed that aspect. Keeping it secret would have allowed you to use your sane action tonight without scum knowing they would have to roleblock you.
I think it might be best to vote you for that reason alone, even putting the weirdness of the role aside.
1. I already did.
2. Your issues are your own problem.
3. Well, perhaps you don’t exist on the same astral plane as Madge and Sabrar after all.
4. I don’t have time to search the archive.
5. Where did the mods say they were using NAR per MafiaScum?
6. How is it a deviation? The kill doesn’t affect an investigation so both can be resolved (refer to the Golden Rule).
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ormal_Game
Anyway, this:
Killing doesn't stop the actions of the dead player. (Imagine that all kills happen at the end of the night, and everyone pulls the trigger simultaneously.) This means that kills generally do not affect other actions for the purpose of the Golden Rule.
7. My claim was necessary to explain my N2 action. So what, scum has to roleblock me. Why don’t you watch me to see who does it.
8. Ok, vote for me. Mak is voting for me too.
FoS Seven for accusing me of something without looking up the source material.
Theallieza wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 6:05 pm
Oooooohhhh... Good catch!
That's very interesting.
Fos Theallieza, for reasons refer to Seven (above).
AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 8:25 pm
Oops, I'm a dumbass. I read the venue issues as related to checking a few hours before deadline but it was for getting on at deadline.
So hopefully she does get on a few hours before.
Also
@Bessie you should probably drop your vote on either moody or Wam
I’m currently voting for my scummiest pick but would switch to Wam if needed.
Seven wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:59 pm
--However, if she died, she wouldn't have to worry about that because her action wouldn't be posted.
I said my action resolves before the kill, so it would be posted.
Seven wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:52 pm
What about his play is town? I think you're putting too much stock into the fact that he Watched Adum, and think you should ignore it.
I agree and I’ve discussed this a couple of times I think, that Wam is a good enough player to use the D2 opening post to fabricate his own night results, especially if somi copped me. Why is no one reading my posts?
I’m leaving soon if you have any questions for me make it quick.
It says NAR is used in the OP under "Setup notes"
Re: Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D3]
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:10 am
by bessie
Good to know, but my claims don't violate NAR anyway.
Re: Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D3]
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:14 am
by Makhaira
bessie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:05 am
Makhaira wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:30 pm
Why are we swinging back to the slot that was competing with our red flip for elim yesterday I dont understand how wam is more likely to be scum than moody or bessie like at all
Just because Wam was a counter wagon doesn’t make him town. Why are you defending wam so hard?
It certainly makes him less likely to be scum given people were pushing that wagon before momentum shifted to somi. Somis mate(s) had every incentive to push wam at EOD. W/W competing wagins are rare. It def isnt something we can rule out but I think probability dictates its an unlikely scenario. I really dont see a somi/wam pairing but multiball possibilities do complicate traditional VCA
Im not defending wam, just you and moody are way better candidates
Also Im not voting you right now which your know if you were paying attention
Also I dont want to yeet wam the phase before my motivate power will activate on him so we can see how he uses his powers, which youd also know if you were paying attention
Guys ffs bessie is all defense, literally ZERO solve drive. Idk how anyone is townreading this grime ass slot
Please swing to her so I can land in and hammer, it would make my weekend
Re: Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D3]
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:15 am
by Makhaira
Bessie and moody continuing to park their votes on me is just proof they are not trying to solve at all and dont even have coherent PoEs like hello?
Re: Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D3]
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:16 am
by Makhaira
I think at this point they are just trying not to spew
Re: Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D3]
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:24 am
by Seven
bessie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:10 am
Good to know, but my claims don't violate NAR anyway.
Kill comes before investigation so what are you saying. If it’s different for your role it’s strange that told everyone putting a big “Hey scum role block me instead of just killing me!” sign on your head.
Re: Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D3]
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:27 am
by Seven
AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:03 am
Less than an hour til deadline
Hour and a half and change from now.
Re: Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D3]
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:27 am
by Seven
Vote: Wam
Re: Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D3]
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:30 am
by Seven
1. I already did.
No, you didn’t. I want to know the order of your sanities and of it requires your action to go through to continue the cycle. I.e of you were roleblocked one night, would you move on to the next sanity still.
Re: Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D3]
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:31 am
by AdumbroDeus
Seven wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:27 am
AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:03 am
Less than an hour til deadline
Hour and a half and change from now.
I could've sworn the tick counter put it to 9 EST. I guess i'm just bad at math.
Thoughts on what I just said about Thea?
Re: Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D3]
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:32 am
by Seven
AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:31 am
Seven wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:27 am
AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:03 am
Less than an hour til deadline
Hour and a half and change from now.
I could've sworn the tick counter put it to 9 EST. I guess i'm just bad at math.
Thoughts on what I just said about Thea?
We’ll see with Wam’s flip.
Re: Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D3]
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:34 am
by Seven
Moody are you OK?
Re: Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D3]
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:36 am
by moody7277
Seven wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:34 amMoody are you OK?
Are you OK?
Re: Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D3]
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:37 am
by AdumbroDeus
Seven wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:34 amMoody are you OK?
Huh? What makes you say that?
Re: Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D3]
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:40 am
by moody7277
Because unlike the rest of you, I don't have my preference set to not being seen while online, so Seven sees me looking at the thread a bunch.