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Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:00 am
by JC_DADDY25
I think Seven would be best to elim today, but I'm down for Gluelock.

Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:01 am
by bessie
Gluelock wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:58 am
bessie wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:56 am
Gluelock wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:53 am Bessie - Unknown (Didn't participate in mass claim)
I claimed my result. And you're in my elim pool.
You barely claimed anything, just your interpretations of the result. If you'd like to elaborate more at this point please go ahead.

I claimed my actual result.
bessie wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:27 am If Gluelock, somitomi, and moody are the final three on the last night, scum wins.

Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:02 am
by AdumbroDeus
System.out.println("
bessie wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:59 am
AdumbroDeus wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:51 am Kills are factional, if their partner has a kill they do. And I strongly doubt they're human.
What if the mafia kill is assigned to a player and if they die it goes to another mafia.

We don't know the Humans have a factional kill, or even a kill.
I'm assuming they don't, at least yet.

I don't think seven is human though, they wouldn't have neighborized their scumbuddy to confirm their power, it just makes no sense.

Unless there's no communication like you suggested");

Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:04 am
by Seven
bessie wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:59 am
AdumbroDeus wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:51 am Kills are factional, if their partner has a kill they do. And I strongly doubt they're human.
What if the mafia kill is assigned to a player and if they die it goes to another mafia.

We don't know the Humans have a factional kill, or even a kill.
People often fall prey to various cognitive biases that affect their judgment, decision-making, and understanding of the world. These biases are systematic patterns of deviation from norm or rationality in judgment, where inferences about other people and situations may be drawn in an illogical fashion. Here are some of the most common logical biases:

1. **Confirmation Bias**: This is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms or supports one's prior beliefs or values. People display this bias when they selectively gather or remember information relevant to their viewpoint but ignore data that contradicts it.

2. **Anchoring Bias**: Anchoring refers to the tendency to heavily rely on the first piece of information offered (the "anchor") when making decisions. Once an anchor is set, subsequent judgments are made by adjusting away from that anchor, and there is a bias toward interpreting other information around the anchor.

Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:05 am
by Gluelock
bessie wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:01 am
Gluelock wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:58 am
bessie wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:56 am

I claimed my result. And you're in my elim pool.
You barely claimed anything, just your interpretations of the result. If you'd like to elaborate more at this point please go ahead.

I claimed my actual result.
bessie wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:27 am If Gluelock, somitomi, and moody are the final three on the last night, scum wins.
Okay explain how you came to that conclusion, saying that with no additional information is really weak and doesn't help. And if it does help how exactly and why should we trust you? Somi and/or Moody very well could be scum so you're not necessarily wrong its just low information.

Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:07 am
by JC_DADDY25
I don't think Seven is human either.

As far as what was quoted before, scum aren't able to chat during the day but should be able to chat at night, and ithink i remember Madge say at the EoD1 that chats would be getting created.

Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:08 am
by JC_DADDY25
Gluelock wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:05 am
bessie wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:01 am
Gluelock wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:58 am

You barely claimed anything, just your interpretations of the result. If you'd like to elaborate more at this point please go ahead.

I claimed my actual result.
bessie wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:27 am If Gluelock, somitomi, and moody are the final three on the last night, scum wins.
Okay explain how you came to that conclusion, saying that with no additional information is really weak and doesn't help. And if it does help how exactly and why should we trust you? Somi and/or Moody very well could be scum so you're not necessarily wrong its just low information.
Look who's being serious now.

Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:11 am
by Gluelock
JC_DADDY25 wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:08 am
Gluelock wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:05 am
bessie wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:01 am


I claimed my actual result.
Okay explain how you came to that conclusion, saying that with no additional information is really weak and doesn't help. And if it does help how exactly and why should we trust you? Somi and/or Moody very well could be scum so you're not necessarily wrong its just low information.
Look who's being serious now.
What do you mean by this?

Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:11 am
by AdumbroDeus
System.out.println("
JC_DADDY25 wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:07 am I don't think Seven is human either.

As far as what was quoted before, scum aren't able to chat during the day but should be able to chat at night, and ithink i remember Madge say at the EoD1 that chats would be getting created.
Ya, I doubt Bessie's wheel of time theory is correct (a game where scum couldn't communicate or know each other apparently). So if seven isn't human and can't kill, they're not scum.

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Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:12 am
by Seven
If Glue flips dissenter, somi is probably a dissenter too since he claimed Glue doesn't have chat.

Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:13 am
by Seven
Glue flip gives us lots of data and vibes. I can only be dissenter if Glue is wolf. So wolf flip leads to possible wolf seven or wolf somi.

Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:14 am
by Seven
And also narrow's the pool of bessie's results.

Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:15 am
by Seven
don't ask about the apostrophe typing fast

Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:15 am
by JC_DADDY25
AdumbroDeus wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:11 am System.out.println("
JC_DADDY25 wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:07 am I don't think Seven is human either.

As far as what was quoted before, scum aren't able to chat during the day but should be able to chat at night, and ithink i remember Madge say at the EoD1 that chats would be getting created.
Ya, I doubt Bessie's wheel of time theory is correct (a game where scum couldn't communicate or know each other apparently). So if seven isn't human and can't kill, they're not scum.

");
You don't think he can be a dissenter? We don't know that group is human, could be evil AI

Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:17 am
by AdumbroDeus
System.out.println("

@Glue: I'd like you to give me your thought process for the game as a while, think about the current claims.

Outside of the nameclaims, any other thoughts of what might mechanically reveal the game.

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Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:22 am
by AdumbroDeus
system.out.println("
JC_DADDY25 wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:15 am
AdumbroDeus wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:11 am System.out.println("
JC_DADDY25 wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:07 am I don't think Seven is human either.

As far as what was quoted before, scum aren't able to chat during the day but should be able to chat at night, and ithink i remember Madge say at the EoD1 that chats would be getting created.
Ya, I doubt Bessie's wheel of time theory is correct (a game where scum couldn't communicate or know each other apparently). So if seven isn't human and can't kill, they're not scum.

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You don't think he can be a dissenter? We don't know that group is human, could be evil AI
Dissenters are obviously the killing mafia if they exist and a serial killer would have a kill too. Without a town redirector that's what best fits the kills we have now.

Glue saying seven has no kill means that seven can only be a dissenter with glue, because glue would have to be lying.

With that it's ridiculous for them to pick their scumbuddy to confirm their neighborizer ability? We know it exists because at least one of laser and EGW has to not be at least in the same scum faction. So it's ridiculously unlikely for them to be human.

So, Seven is only scum with glue.
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Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:24 am
by Gluelock
AdumbroDeus wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:17 am System.out.println("

@Glue: I'd like you to give me your thought process for the game as a while, think about the current claims.

Outside of the nameclaims, any other thoughts of what might mechanically reveal the game.

");
Yeah I sense the momentum coming my way and I'm okay with getting lynched. Sure it feels bad but if enough people think it'll help town solve the game then its the optimal play here. I'll draft a quick legacy list and review the mechanical aspect too. We have about a half hour left, so lets just not hammer lol

Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:29 am
by bessie
ANYONE THAT HAMMERS IS SCUM

Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:31 am
by JC_DADDY25
How many votes does he have?

Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:32 am
by JC_DADDY25
I thought Seven was leading with 3 votes.

Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:33 am
by AdumbroDeus
System.out.println("
Gluelock wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:24 am
AdumbroDeus wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:17 am System.out.println("

@Glue: I'd like you to give me your thought process for the game as a while, think about the current claims.

Outside of the nameclaims, any other thoughts of what might mechanically reveal the game.

");
Yeah I sense the momentum coming my way and I'm okay with getting lynched. Sure it feels bad but if enough people think it'll help town solve the game then its the optimal play here. I'll draft a quick legacy list and review the mechanical aspect too. We have about a half hour left, so lets just not hammer lol
Thank you, I'm not a fan of this lynch but I can't deny Seven's rationale for why EGW died, and your flip clears seven essentially.

Btw less than a half hour

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Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:33 am
by bessie
Seven wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:04 am 2. **Anchoring Bias**: Anchoring refers to the tendency to heavily rely on the first piece of information offered (the "anchor") when making decisions. Once an anchor is set, subsequent judgments are made by adjusting away from that anchor, and there is a bias toward interpreting other information around the anchor.
Of what are you trying to accuse me?

Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:35 am
by AdumbroDeus
System.out.println("
JC_DADDY25 wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:32 am I thought Seven was leading with 3 votes.
Correct, for right now. Seven is trying to convince a move to glue.

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Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:35 am
by bessie
JC_DADDY25 wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:32 am I thought Seven was leading with 3 votes.
Seven is leading. And I'm not moving my vote (yet?) because I don't trust him.

Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:35 am
by AdumbroDeus
System.out.println("
bessie wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:29 am ANYONE THAT HAMMERS IS SCUM
We're not close to any hammer. Seven is the closest with 3");