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Ah it was to santys question. I'm an idiot and read seven not santy in the quote bubble and was going mad looking for a seven question you were responding to. Ignore me.
Because it's not Bessie's actual rolename, as we've just established. I was wondering if there was any explanation in the claimed observe description.Wam wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 10:59 amIn what way?AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 4:58 am Hey @Wam, in as much detail as possible describe your observe power
I don't know what else I can say without copying from the pm.
I get all the role names of everyone who visited my target.
I got
Publishing cop
Jack of all trades
Jack of all trades
As the result.
What were your results last night?moody7277 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 10:54 am Vote: bessie
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Sorry, that's just PTSD from the last game that explicitly involved the Doctor where she was a Weeping Angel.
Well, despite Seven's alleged mindmeld with Madge, I am the town backup, and I was trying to see if my "You are next" declaration was justified.Santy wrote:@moody thought?
I didn't get a result as I was blocked, and I think Seven was taking the credit for that.AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:26 amWhat were your results last night?moody7277 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 10:54 am Vote: bessie
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Sorry, that's just PTSD from the last game that explicitly involved the Doctor where she was a Weeping Angel.
Well, despite Seven's alleged mindmeld with Madge, I am the town backup, and I was trying to see if my "You are next" declaration was justified.Santy wrote:@moody thought?
I have been back and checked and it just says roles.AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:24 amBecause it's not Bessie's actual rolename, as we've just established. I was wondering if there was any explanation in the claimed observe description.Wam wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 10:59 amIn what way?AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 4:58 am Hey @Wam, in as much detail as possible describe your observe power
I don't know what else I can say without copying from the pm.
I get all the role names of everyone who visited my target.
I got
Publishing cop
Jack of all trades
Jack of all trades
As the result.
Oops I forgot about the RB, but who'd you target?moody7277 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:27 amI didn't get a result as I was blocked, and I think Seven was taking the credit for that.AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:26 amWhat were your results last night?moody7277 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 10:54 am Vote: bessie
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Sorry, that's just PTSD from the last game that explicitly involved the Doctor where she was a Weeping Angel.
Well, despite Seven's alleged mindmeld with Madge, I am the town backup, and I was trying to see if my "You are next" declaration was justified.
Mak. As I said, I was trying to see if my scummy read of him was justified.
To my recollection they claimed a parrot but not an observe and I'm not asking them to at this time.Wam wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:29 amI have been back and checked and it just says roles.AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:24 amBecause it's not Bessie's actual rolename, as we've just established. I was wondering if there was any explanation in the claimed observe description.
I'm fairly certain seven and I have very similar or exact copies so maybe they can say more?
Not a mind meld with Madge: Madgebrar. The fused mind of Madge and Sabrar is eerily similar to my own, it genuinely creeps me out at times. It’s how I knew* there was a Framer in Brooklyn 99 Mafia, that Stranger Things consisted of multiple docs and SKs; and how I know that back up is Mafia aligned.
I’m not sure. I don’t think it points to wam or bessie lying. JC didn’t flip as Loud JOAT. Also I think JC watched you N1 and he had the same result as Wam. He said something along the lines of town reading wam because Wam was accurate about ‘Publishing Cop”.AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:51 pmInteresting.
So, why would Wam's role watcher catch Bessie's publishing modifier, but not the other modifier, but also not catch your loud modifier?
Wam wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:04 pm So have started this post and got distracted multiple.times this afternoon so apologies for any mistakes.
So I think we can POE this out
Town core
Adum
Seven
Fred
Thea
Possible elim targets
Bessie
JC
Makhaira
Moody
Santygrass
Somi
Wam
Within the above I have the following reads
Town
JC - I haven't changed my day 1 read of this is the .most town JC has looked.
Mak - this feels Town Mak but I'm a little bit questioning of them still being stuck on adum
Santy - got a town lean but will admit based on the 1 game this could be within santys scum range.
Moody - a null read on moody I haven't seen much to sway me.either way. Waiting to see what his promised deep look shows
Somi - feels a bit off needs a re read.
Bessie - I said end of day 1 I felt bessie c Seven was TvS been back through and still think it is.
Scum
Even thinking ut could be multiball Wam had the masons as towncore. I dont believe the perspective in which they believed that and then went to check thea alignment. Specially after thea pushed the somi yeet as wellWam wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:00 pm Tbh I think it's POE run through the list and it should.be OK.
If its mutliball and 2/2/7 we have 2 mis elims after me
If its not and us 3/8 we have 2 mis elims after me plus a NL at mylo.
I think myntown core earlier is solid which means scumust be in
JC
Bessies
Somi
Moody
Santy
So either 3/5 or 4/5 so hit everyone on the list we win.
@mak
I have left in my JOAT tool box
Cop (was saving for closer to endgame)
Roleblocker
Parrot - weird one I'm not going to explain as it's more useful that way
Doc (was saving for closer to endgame)
Wam wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:35 pm I will self pres vote if needed but of all the POE JC is my top town read.
I'm thinking outside my towncore.and yes paired scum/indies is possible for thea and Fred but think we can solve that later in game and I think it's unlikely.
Town
JC - most town jc has ever looked I find it weird that's who thea has gone for
Moody - think thier reactions to the claim stuff show a desire to solve.
Mak - feels Town but within scum range
Bessie - see previous post
Santy - I think they are lying about having a vig shot to give them cover being caught shooting someone later. See previous post about how they didn't flag back to adum with a vig shot its not mathematically optimal to no elim.
Somi - interactions with claim are weird.
Scum
Vote somi
I think it is one of the following:AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:18 pm I guess the JC kill had to be mafia. Possible reasons are hard dangerous PR read, redirected, or just they felt they didn't have better targets.
That last one weirds me, they obviously have a reason not to go after me, but why not seven or the claimed masons? Why not the claimed cop? Why not Santy?
Maybe they have Indy reads and are trying to dodge BP?
More on Wam's perspective assuming the masons are town and effectively a 'miller' to the traffic analyserWam wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:33 pmThat's because I should be asleep and I'm typing too quickly due to deadline. I have reworded it to better explain my mindset.
I'm viewing the TA as effectively a cop and the masons as effectively miller's to reduce the effectiveness. So if we knew we had a cop and we had two miller's claim would we expect scum to claim miller's?
With the additional caveat that scum can't just claim false claim some othwr chat there has to be at least 2 players claiming chat for it to make sense.
So I'm.not sold on it.
Vote: wamSantygrass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:23 pm Like, a check on bessie/moody/me was infinitely better?? And I dont buy it coming from Wam perspective?
But maybe Im just stiff / biased with my scumread earlier idk. But blanket just think there should be a mafia between Wam/bessie always
Wam wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:37 pmI'm I'm the camp of either the 3rd joat is scum or I'm wrong on Thea Fred. As 3 joats and masons is too town OP.Seven wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:35 pmBack up is scum anyway. Because Madgebrar think like me and I would make Backup scum.Wam wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:33 pm
That's because I should be asleep and I'm typing too quickly due to deadline. I have reworded it to better explain my mindset.
I'm viewing the TA as effectively a cop and the masons as effectively miller's to reduce the effectiveness. So if we knew we had a cop and we had two miller's claim would we expect scum to claim miller's?
With the additional caveat that scum can't just claim false claim some othwr chat there has to be at least 2 players claiming chat for it to make sense.
So I'm.not sold on it.
I take it you agree with the third JOAT being scum? Why aren't you voting moody for his TMI on Adum.
I missed the tmi enlighten me
Seven wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:28 pmVote: wamSantygrass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:23 pm Like, a check on bessie/moody/me was infinitely better?? And I dont buy it coming from Wam perspective?
But maybe Im just stiff / biased with my scumread earlier idk. But blanket just think there should be a mafia between Wam/bessie always
Why bessie?