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bessie wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:07 am

Seven wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 11:46 am @bessie did you know heury was an Unjester?

No.

Seven wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:36 am

bessie wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:07 am

Seven wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:33 pm but we know EGW did in fact not have a kill last night

Scuse me, but how do we “know” this?

Seven wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:33 pm we know it was the dissenters that targeted Glue N1.

We don’t “know” this either. Stop posting your speculations as facts.

I mean under the condition that there isn't a PGO/redirector.

Seven wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:53 am bessie scum post for reference: viewtopic.php?p=9071#p9071

AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:01 am System.out.println("

Seven wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:53 am bessie scum post for reference: viewtopic.php?p=9071#p9071

What exactly is their play as survivor supposed to prove?

");

bessie wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:07 am

Seven wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:10 pm If he was caught up, he should have known that I was simply trying to cover for Adum. Frozen is not reading closely at all. Cause he's not trying to solve. Just needs to know the bare minimum to keep enough to pretend he's solving.

I do not agree with this. Your content has been all over the place in this game, and it is hard to determine exactly what your current claims are. And I still don’t see (or buy) that you were just trying to cover for Adum.

Makhaira wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:00 pm EGW kill makes no sense unless moody is the killer though I guess that could be an easy way to set the slot up given EGWs EOD final post

But EGW didn’t know that would be his final post. I was supposed to come back to discuss moody with EGW. EGW prodded me several times about it, and could have been hoping to use our discussion to change his position.

somitomi wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:01 pm

Seven wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:41 pm ooo good point

This is a townslip (or Seven is very good)

This is not a townslip. FoS somitomi.

Seven wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:07 am

AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:01 am System.out.println("

Seven wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:53 am bessie scum post for reference: viewtopic.php?p=9071#p9071

What exactly is their play as survivor supposed to prove?

");

Prove? It is not intended for proof. It is intended as a reference to her posting style. I'd provide a mafia game if there were some available on xkcd. Smashboard games aren't a good reference as she plays differently offsite (shyness).

Seven wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:13 am The key thing to pay attention to is the way she talks to me there and here. The thing about scumbessie is that she takes an antagonistic stance against every comment that the person she is pushing makes. Town bessie finds particular things suspicious and she will point out speculations, but scum bessie finds every thing suspicious about the person she is pushing. Her MO is not to give headway to anything they say.

AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:49 am My point is that it isn't a good illustration because it's not the type of role that would produce comparable results to being mafia/SK or the like, at least in my opinion.

Seven wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:55 am

AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:49 am My point is that it isn't a good illustration because it's not the type of role that would produce comparable results to being mafia/SK or the like, at least in my opinion.

Maybe if it were a normal setup but I think surviver and second scum team are compatible for the aspects that I'm looking at.

@madge: Assuming it doesn't also end the game, would it be announced if a team is eliminated?

madge wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 6:31 am Votals:
Seven - 3 - JC, Mak, Bessie
Bessie - 3 - LaserGuy, Seven

Night 3 will start at noon on Sunday the 22nd of October (UTC+8), or in about 3 days, 21 hours, 30 minutes.

With 9 players alive, 5 are required to vote off.

@madge: Assuming it doesn't also end the game, would it be announced if a team is eliminated?

In the event that team is eliminated and the game doesn't end, said elimination will be announced.

Seven wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 6:40 am bessie has 2 votes btw

AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 11:15 pm \"No comment\"= \"we did it correctly\", if it was in error they'd be obligated to fix it.

I can't speak for past games, but this sort of deception seemingly goes goes further, they let others draw implications rather than explicitly lying. There's also the question of her knowing the Doc that just got NK'd, even if they are a scumdoc.

Seven wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:50 am Anyway Blue is pulling your chains, he’s not in my hood. Laser was my only target.

bessie wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:07 am

Makhaira wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:08 pm oh jfc I jusst got ninja'd by like a page typing that up and may have just hammered fml

Yeah, unfortunate. We could have used any additional content we could get out of George.

This is not a townslip. FoS somitomi.

AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:29 am I'd agree but less because it's invalid and more because it discounts that we're in a presumptive multi-scum team setup. That's just as likely the reason to not reflexively consider how it looks.

somitomi wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:40 pm

Seven wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:08 pm What am I missing?

It just seems to be a very genuine "huh, I haven't thought of that" reaction that I think is very hard to fake if you're scum bullshitting us with the neighbourizer claim. It indicates a mindset so locked in on this reality that it never even occured to you how "EGW confirms your claim and immediately flips scum" might look from the outside, which is definitely something mafia thinks about if they set up a gambit like this.

The neighborizer claim is definitely real. I think don't think it's particularly AI--given that the cop and doc were both scum, we can't trust roles to give us alignment info directly and neighorizer is often a scum role anyway (I think I've seen more scum neighborizers than Town ones, actually).

Seven wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:50 am Anyway Blue is pulling your chains, he’s not in my hood. Laser was my only target.

bessie wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:07 am

LaserGuy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:42 am Vote: bessie

With heury apparently not being a mason I'm feeling a lot less charitable.

Please further explain this vote and your comment.

somitomi wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:40 pm It just seems to be a very genuine "huh, I haven't thought of that" reaction that I think is very hard to fake if you're scum bullshitting us with the neighbourizer claim. It indicates a mindset so locked in on this reality that it never even occured to you how "EGW confirms your claim and immediately flips scum" might look from the outside, which is definitely something mafia thinks about if they set up a gambit like this.

Seven wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:50 am Anyway Blue is pulling your chains, he’s not in my hood. Laser was my only target.

JC_DADDY25 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:22 pm I took Seven's comment as sarcasm.

LaserGuy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 4:30 pm The neighborizer claim is definitely real. I think don't think it's particularly AI--given that the cop and doc were both scum, we can't trust roles to give us alignment info directly and neighorizer is often a scum role anyway (I think I've seen more scum neighborizers than Town ones, actually).

Gluelock wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:49 pm

Seven wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:50 am Anyway Blue is pulling your chains, he’s not in my hood. Laser was my only target.

Lol well, that was fun while it lasted

somitomi wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:01 pm That wording here is pinging me something crazy. If Laser is not in fact in the neighbour chat, he had to make the answer up based on information in the thread (like say, this post from Seven). But you didn't say he's wrong, you said he's "lying for whatever reason" when from your point of view that reason should be clear: he doesn't know what you know.