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Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:24 pm
by AdumbroDeus
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Gluelock wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:19 pm
AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:16 pm
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LaserGuy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:10 pm
All I got was a message I was in the neighborhood. I think the chat is just done using PMs so there isn't really a paper trail unless someone compiles it by hand, but no, I don't have access to any previous discussion.
Sounds like it's worth asking the mods.
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I find it funny you even believe LG is truthfully claiming to be the neighbor. Especially when I know for a fact that he isn't....
In games with roles it's important to know either way, because that means flips determine whose clear.
Also
Please elaborate.
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Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:25 pm
by Gluelock
Makhaira wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:22 pm
Gluelock wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:19 pm
I find it funny you even believe LG is truthfully claiming to be the neighbor. Especially when I know for a fact that he isn't....
what does this mean?????
It means that Laserguys claim to be the chosen neighbor is a lie, I was the one picked. I'm trying to figure out what that means though.
Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:27 pm
by Makhaira
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Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:28 pm
by Seven
Makhaira wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:27 pm
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Pass me some
Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:28 pm
by Makhaira
laser and seven what say you
Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:30 pm
by Gluelock
I think it was a tactic by laser to force me to out myself. Well played sir.
Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:34 pm
by Seven
Makhaira wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:28 pm
laser and seven what say you
It’s 50:50 to me I used RNG
Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:34 pm
by AdumbroDeus
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Gluelock wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:30 pm
I think it was a tactic by laser to force me to out myself. Well played sir.
If you think that's the case then mind answering the questions I posed at laserguy? About whether new neighbors would be able to see prior messages in neighborhood chat.
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Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:40 pm
by AdumbroDeus
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Seven wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:34 pm
Makhaira wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:28 pm
laser and seven what say you
It’s 50:50 to me I used RNG
You should at least know your targets or be able to query the mods for them. That's necessary for mass-claims.
Also *adds using RNG for targets outside of the few situations it's objectively helpful into "meta to talk about post-game" file*
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Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:45 pm
by Makhaira
LaserGuy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:10 pm
All I got was a message I was in the neighborhood. I think the chat is just done using PMs so there isn't really a paper trail unless someone compiles it by hand, but no, I don't have access to any previous discussion.
@Gluelock, are you claiming your experience in being added to the neighborhood was similar or dissimilar to this claimed experience?
@Seven, even if you picked at random, you would still know who you ultimately targeted, no? Idk what your rng method was but say you flipped a coin, youd know the result of the selection and then would have had to execute it by submiting the action to the mods. Are you claiming that you told the mods to randomize it for you and they faithfully executed that service for you with telling you what was ultimately executed?
Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:45 pm
by Gluelock
AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:34 pm
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Gluelock wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:30 pm
I think it was a tactic by laser to force me to out myself. Well played sir.
If you think that's the case then mind answering the questions I posed at laserguy? About whether new neighbors would be able to see prior messages in neighborhood chat.
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Laser was lying about the lack of chat history too for whatever reason. I can read what they talked about and ftr, Seven was mostly honest about how the conversation with EGW went. They did omit an important part of the conversation though, but I'd rather not expose the details because its about Seven's role.
Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:47 pm
by Gluelock
Makhaira wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:45 pm
LaserGuy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:10 pm
All I got was a message I was in the neighborhood. I think the chat is just done using PMs so there isn't really a paper trail unless someone compiles it by hand, but no, I don't have access to any previous discussion.
@Gluelock, are you claiming your experience in being added to the neighborhood was similar or dissimilar to this claimed experience?
@Seven, even if you picked at random, you would still know who you ultimately targeted, no? Idk what your rng method was but say you flipped a coin, youd know the result of the selection and then would have had to execute it by submiting the action to the mods. Are you claiming that you told the mods to randomize it for you and they faithfully executed that service for you with telling you what was ultimately executed?
Even if Seven did what you are asking, how would Laserguy have known he was the other choice?
Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:48 pm
by Makhaira
Im not seeing anything in the OP that clarifies what happens if someone fails to submit a night action. My prior assumption is that no submission before deadline = no action will be taken, and only in the event that someone had a compulsory role would a night action be randomized and executed by the mod in the event that no action is submitted by the player
If anyone sees this rule clarified somewhere that I missed please let me know
Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:51 pm
by Makhaira
Gluelock wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:30 pm
I think it was a tactic by laser to force me to out myself. Well played sir.
either glue is powerwolfing with seven or I think giving your counterclaimer an out like this pings town
Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:59 pm
by Gluelock
Makhaira wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:51 pm
Gluelock wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:30 pm
I think it was a tactic by laser to force me to out myself. Well played sir.
either glue is powerwolfing with seven or I think giving your counterclaimer an out like this pings town
Now that you mention it, Laser might have done it to obfuscate who the real neighbor is and I ruined it by claiming. (If thats the case, then my b LG!).
I'm flattered you think I'm capable of powerwolfing though
Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:59 pm
by AdumbroDeus
Gluelock wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:45 pm
AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:34 pm
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Gluelock wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:30 pm
I think it was a tactic by laser to force me to out myself. Well played sir.
If you think that's the case then mind answering the questions I posed at laserguy? About whether new neighbors would be able to see prior messages in neighborhood chat.
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Laser was lying about the lack of chat history too for whatever reason. I can read what they talked about and ftr, Seven was mostly honest about how the conversation with EGW went. They did omit an important part of the conversation though, but I'd rather not expose the details because its about Seven's role.
If they weren't in the neighborhood and trying to force the actual neighbor to claim it would make sense to not know.
I think there's another possibility but not gonna share it yet.
Either way this shines a new light on why Seven would share that EGW informed them that they were the doc.
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Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:00 pm
by AdumbroDeus
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Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:29 pm
by Seven
Makhaira wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:45 pm
LaserGuy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:10 pm
All I got was a message I was in the neighborhood. I think the chat is just done using PMs so there isn't really a paper trail unless someone compiles it by hand, but no, I don't have access to any previous discussion.
@Gluelock, are you claiming your experience in being added to the neighborhood was similar or dissimilar to this claimed experience?
@Seven, even if you picked at random, you would still know who you ultimately targeted, no? Idk what your rng method was but say you flipped a coin, youd know the result of the selection and then would have had to execute it by submiting the action to the mods. Are you claiming that you told the mods to randomize it for you and they faithfully executed that service for you with telling you what was ultimately executed?
I did it in a trance state. I practice a technique that essentially allows me to execute a predetermined set of actions while unconscious. It's very useful for getting through mundane repetitive tasks like chores. It's like going to sleep and waking up with your house clean.
Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:51 pm
by Makhaira
This sounds like the nightpeople shit they did in rick and morty and based on how that all turned out im terrified of night!seven piloting his slot this game
Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:51 pm
by Makhaira
Their* jfc im sorry
Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:52 pm
by Makhaira
Their* jfc im sorry
Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:55 pm
by Seven
Makhaira wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:51 pm
This sounds like the nightpeople shit they did in rick and morty and based on how that all turned out im terrified of night!seven piloting his slot this game
LMAO
Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:01 pm
by somitomi
Seven wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:41 pm
ooo good point
This is a townslip (or Seven is
very good)
Gluelock wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 2:49 pm
This read from Mak seem's spot on and well thought out. I almost think its so spot on its TMI. Whats the chance that Mak is the recruited neighbor? Seven scum reading mak is a good way to keep them safe from a nk, no? The other responses to Seven in the post may just be theater?
Seven is always a town-leader type of player though, so while the behavior is spot on, extrapolating that particular motive from it seems bit shaky to me.
Seven wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 5:31 pmYou're right, Doc avoidance makes sense for not targeting you.
It feels weird that you're only realising this now that Adum pointed it out
Seven wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:34 pm
It’s 50:50 to me I used RNG
And you don't know the outcome? How?
Gluelock wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:45 pm
Laser was lying about the lack of chat history too for whatever reason. I can read what they talked about and ftr, Seven was mostly honest about how the conversation with EGW went. They did omit an important part of the conversation though, but I'd rather not expose the details because its about Seven's role.
That wording here is pinging me something crazy. If Laser is not in fact in the neighbour chat, he had to make the answer up based on information in the thread (like say,
this post from Seven). But you didn't say he's wrong, you said he's "lying for whatever reason" when from your point of view that reason should be clear: he doesn't know what you know.
Gluelock wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:47 pm
Even if Seven did what you are asking, how would Laserguy have known he was the other choice?
That is a good question
Seven wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:29 pm
I did it in a trance state. I practice a technique that essentially allows me to execute a predetermined set of actions while unconscious. It's very useful for getting through mundane repetitive tasks like chores. It's like going to sleep and waking up with your house clean.
...I did not see this coming.
Can't you check your PMs though?
Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:06 pm
by JC_DADDY25
Gluelock wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:45 pm
AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:34 pm
System.out.println("
Gluelock wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:30 pm
I think it was a tactic by laser to force me to out myself. Well played sir.
If you think that's the case then mind answering the questions I posed at laserguy? About whether new neighbors would be able to see prior messages in neighborhood chat.
");
Laser was lying about the lack of chat history too for whatever reason. I can read what they talked about and ftr, Seven was mostly honest about how the conversation with EGW went. They did omit an important part of the conversation though, but I'd rather not expose the details because its about Seven's role.
Seven also said that the chat reset with the new neighbor being added.
Re: HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:08 pm
by Seven
somitomi wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 9:01 pm
Seven wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:41 pm
ooo good point
This is a townslip (or Seven is
very good)
What am I missing?
Seven wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 5:31 pmYou're right, Doc avoidance makes sense for not targeting you.
It feels weird that you're only realising this now that Adum pointed it out
It was either very late at night or very early in the morning and I had just woken up + already had it in my mind that George was Doc so didn't consider the possibility of George targeting him.
Seven wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:29 pm
I did it in a trance state. I practice a technique that essentially allows me to execute a predetermined set of actions while unconscious. It's very useful for getting through mundane repetitive tasks like chores. It's like going to sleep and waking up with your house clean.
...I did not see this coming.
Can't you check your PMs though?
I don't wanna. But also I'm just messing with you guys and letting Laser/Blue do their thing.