New XKCD Forums

Sorry I think I'm being too dismissive. Setup-gaming and mod meta are valid and doubting something because it introduces too much swing is a totally fair default response. Just please, please tread carefully because every time you think "this role must be that alignment", unless youre playing in an open/semi a open game where it's 100% mod-confirmed, you have a problem. As soon as a mod expects that response, they will make setups to subvert that expectation. As soon as they expect to you to expect that subversion, they will make a setup with another layer of subversion and another which ultimately leads back to that role actually being that alignment just to make setup-gamers doubt their own sanity.

Osie exists in this space. He's probably designed & modded more mid-to-high complexity games than I've had years on this earth. He's seen these expectations before, raised them a monster setup to subvert them, watched people's psyches break and gotten the sweet sick satisfaction that comes with it.

This is the wrong kind of setup to go into assuming that certain powers are highly likely to belong to certain alignments.

Wait I got a page top for my "osieorb18 is a supervillain" soliloquy? heck yeah I'll never be this cool again

I'm going to sleep soon. I'm going to hammer moody in 10 minutes so I can get rid of MBs roleblock.

Go for it we have time to be wrong.

Vote: moody

It was me I killed the batman

It would be interesting if I was a mafia traitor and hammered to give WMU another day.

Seven wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:07 pm It would be interesting if I was a mafia traitor and hammered to give WMU another day.

It would be since you spent all day poking at Madge then put yourself on moody to “get rid of the block”

Yet if Madge or Ducky are scum they can’t win if they are lovers.

Elo would be Madge + Ducky + 1 player.

Elim other player. Madge + Ducky remain, shoot Townie, scum dies no one wins

Elim lover. Town and scum die.

If lovers is true Madge and Ducky conf town. Ergo you and WMU or it’s moody. So get wrecked I am blocking in you and WMU.

So either Moody is lying about lovers in which case probably mafia and we win or scum have two conf town on their hands

Mechanical PoE then is Wam/myself/WMU/Seven.

All I had to do for town to win is not be elimmed today because I highly suspect that’s a true claim it’s a matter of which is which.

Conf town at EoD: Madge, worst, Jedi (via worst)
Should be conf: MathBlade (saving now confirmed town)

Scum is WMU+Seven like I said and will be taking a gamble.

If I am wrong (worse case scenario) then Jedi, Wam, WMU+Seven, Me

We elim whoever of WMU/Seven I didn’t block and should be GG get wrecked.

Or

If scum shoot me >> Madge, Worst, Jedi unassailable group of three that group wins it for us as then it’s scum get wrecked.

Or I save the kill

I think it’s GG but let’s see how night plays out.

git Rekt Seven/WMU

MathBlade wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:10 pm

Seven wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:07 pm It would be interesting if I was a mafia traitor and hammered to give WMU another day.

It would be since you spent all day poking at Madge then put yourself on moody to “get rid of the block”

Yet if Madge or Ducky are scum they can’t win if they are lovers.

Elo would be Madge + Ducky + 1 player.

Elim other player. Madge + Ducky remain, shoot Townie, scum dies no one wins

Elim lover. Town and scum die.

If lovers is true Madge and Ducky conf town. Ergo you and WMU or it’s moody. So get wrecked I am blocking in you and WMU.

Scum wins with parity

Seven wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:24 pm

MathBlade wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:10 pm

Seven wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:07 pm It would be interesting if I was a mafia traitor and hammered to give WMU another day.

It would be since you spent all day poking at Madge then put yourself on moody to “get rid of the block”

Yet if Madge or Ducky are scum they can’t win if they are lovers.

Elo would be Madge + Ducky + 1 player.

Elim other player. Madge + Ducky remain, shoot Townie, scum dies no one wins

Elim lover. Town and scum die.

If lovers is true Madge and Ducky conf town. Ergo you and WMU or it’s moody. So get wrecked I am blocking in you and WMU.

Scum wins with parity

Nope. Sabrar’s win con says all threats to mafia are gone. Says nothing about parity.

MathBlade wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:27 pm

Seven wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:24 pm

MathBlade wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:10 pm

It would be since you spent all day poking at Madge then put yourself on moody to “get rid of the block”

Yet if Madge or Ducky are scum they can’t win if they are lovers.

Elo would be Madge + Ducky + 1 player.

Elim other player. Madge + Ducky remain, shoot Townie, scum dies no one wins

Elim lover. Town and scum die.

If lovers is true Madge and Ducky conf town. Ergo you and WMU or it’s moody. So get wrecked I am blocking in you and WMU.

Scum wins with parity

Nope. Sabrar’s win con says all threats to mafia are gone. Says nothing about parity.

All threats to the Mafia or gone = Mafia cannot be eliminated = parity.

You win when no threats to mafia remain or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

A Townie is still a threat. Ducky and Madge if scum can’t eliminate all townies and therefore would lose.

Nah.

Parity usually works because then you can just kill the remaining players but here in this hyperliteral case because of how it’s written scum if Ducky/Madge auto lose.

That's hammer.

Final Day 3 Votecount

Votee (Votes/Elimination) - Voter(s)
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

moody7277 (4/4) - the worst, MathBlade, madge, Seven
MathBlade (1/4) - moody7277
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx (1/4) - Wam

Not Voting (2): SuperJedi224, xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx

Nah. I don't get how you can know you're poor at misinterpreting things yet still be so confident each time.

Night 3 Start

moody7277 has been eliminated. They were TOWN When I'm 64

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCTunqv1Xt4

moody7277

Welcome to the game!

You are TOWN When I'm 64

Each Night, you may target two players. Those players get a Neighborhood from the beginning of the following Day to the end of the following Night. During that Night, they may privately vote to keep the Neighborhood. If both vote to keep it, they gain a strong communal ability and become lovers. If only one votes to not keep it, that player gains an extra vote during the next Day phase and the other player has a 25% chance to die. If neither vote to keep it, both players gain extra votes during the next Day phase and have a 1/3rd chance to die. Your targets will learn that they will gain a large advantage if both vote to keep it, a moderate advantage if only their opponent votes to keep it, and a moderate advantage and moderate risk if both vote to not keep it. Once either a player has died to this ability or players have become lovers, you lose this ability.

You win when no threats to town remain, as long as at least one townsperson is alive.

Confirm reading and understanding this message by explaining this role here in this PM.

Night 3 starts now. Actions are due within the first 28 hours of the Night. Day 4 will start around 10 AM PST on Saturday, December 11th.

AC 3.5

SuperJedi224 - 1
moody7277 - 3
MathBlade - 10
the worst - 22
Seven - 38
Wam - 9
xX_WakeMeUp1337_Xx - 10
madge - 8

Apologies for the delay.

Day 4 Start

MathBlade has died. They were Town Flash.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=LfmrHTdXgK4

MathBlade

Welcome to the game!

You are TOWN Flash.

Each Night, you may target another player. Prevent all actions that player would take during that Night. Any time you vote during the following Day phase, if that player posts after that vote, hammer has not been reached, and at least 30 minutes remain in the day phase, that player must follow that vote before the end of the Day phase or they are roleblocked again during the following Night phase.

You win when no threats to town remain, as long as at least one townsperson is alive.

Confirm reading and understanding this message by explaining this role here in this PM.

The leaves turn brown and the warmth starts to fade. The days will shorten.

Day 4 starts now. Day 4 elim deadline will be 10 AM PST on December 15th.

With 6 players, it takes 2 to eliminate by plurality and 4 to eliminate by majority.

I was blocked probably, because i received info my action failed.

Something odd happened, i received a message overnight and I want to know who sent it to me.

I should fight for logic more because paranoia never helps

Wmu who was your target?

Wam wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:54 pm Wmu who was your target?

The worst

@Seven didn't get a response from the neighbor until it was too late to act on it yesterday (what with the hammer vote), but it sounds like they agree with your case against madge

Who sent me the message?