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heuristically_alone wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:16 pm I did not target anyone last night. But seven you should definitely target me tonight. I have private info for you.

If you're neighborizer why did you imply there wouldn't be a neighborizer in the game because Sabrar doesn't like them?

Seven wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:17 pm

EGW wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:16 pm

heuristically_alone wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:14 pmImagine a seven gluelock scum team. Seven saw boomfrog crumb he would body guard gluelock so they night killed boomfrog (or even riskier actually targeted the kill on gluelock). However I am still leaning on gluelock as very town.

I don't think Seven is scum here. Yet I'm curious why he is voting you as he had you as a town read. I also agree with Bessie that I don't think Gluelock was the target. Laser has reminded me of the player that Boomfrog hard defended, it was Darkpit.

Did he use those words?

Well obviously it would be seven targeting gluelock (in fictional scenario. Seven playing innocent about this option worrisome. But if egw confirmed seven's action it probably clears seven unless they are a scum team.

Seven wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:14 pm

heuristically_alone wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:14 pm Imagine a seven gluelock scum team. Seven saw boomfrog crumb he would body guard gluelock so they night killed boomfrog (or even riskier actually targeted the kill on gluelock). However I am still leaning on gluelock as very town.

I don't think scum can self-target (though I'm not sure)

If Seven-Gluelock team, Seven can target Gluelock with the kill. Gluelock would not need to self target.

I don't think this happened. I just found it interesting that you did not think of this. Or you are again interpreting things in a way to advance your narrative.

Seven wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:19 pm

heuristically_alone wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:16 pm I did not target anyone last night. But seven you should definitely target me tonight. I have private info for you.

If you're neighborizer why did you imply there wouldn't be a neighborizer in the game because Sabrar doesn't like them?

It was a joke. I'll claim if I get more votes on me. It would not be beneficial to town of I claim prematurely

bessie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:23 pm

Seven wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:14 pm

heuristically_alone wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:14 pm Imagine a seven gluelock scum team. Seven saw boomfrog crumb he would body guard gluelock so they night killed boomfrog (or even riskier actually targeted the kill on gluelock). However I am still leaning on gluelock as very town.

I don't think scum can self-target (though I'm not sure)

If Seven-Gluelock team, Seven can target Gluelock with the kill. Gluelock would not need to self target.

I don't think this happened. I just found it interesting that you did not think of this. Or you are again interpreting things in a way to advance your narrative.

I'm saying I don't think scum can self-target. i.e. that the factional kill can be done by one member against the other. Again though, I'm not sure.

heuristically_alone wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:24 pm

Seven wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:19 pm

heuristically_alone wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:16 pm I did not target anyone last night. But seven you should definitely target me tonight. I have private info for you.

If you're neighborizer why did you imply there wouldn't be a neighborizer in the game because Sabrar doesn't like them?

It was a joke. I'll claim if I get more votes on me. It would not be beneficial to town of I claim prematurely

As you wish

Vote: huery

@Bessie have we had a game before where scum had a neighborizer ability?

I do remember there was a game where a bunch of players randomly had chats and I had a chat with scum laserguy, but I don't think that was an action, I think it was randomly chosen at the start of the game but I don't recall.

bessie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:23 pmI don't think this happened. I just found it interesting that you did not think of this. Or you are again interpreting things in a way to advance your narrative.

I understand why he would pick myself over Gluelock, so not really a problem. Also, Gluelock doesn't seem to be that invested. Don't see it as a helpful choice for Zen.

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bessie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:58 pm Question for AdumbroDeus. Yesterday, you were willing to be eliminated with the thought that your content would be reread and carry weight today. Why have you not put more emphesis on BoomFrog's reads today? And why have you not done more analysis of BoomFrog's content to try to figure out who killed him?

And no, I am not convinced he died protecting Gluelock.

His read is probably the main reason I'm no longer going for EGW. The more the day went on the more I think they're correct and seeing sparks of standard town ran begging to be let free. There are other things, eg gluelock, but overall I'm looking back and referencing their thoughts frequently because I think they're a sharp player and they're confirmed.

As for NK analysis, tried but given that Gluelock stood as an odd target and my assumption is right now they picked up on the BC and killed them that way, a combination of generally being viewed as town + a leader (their suggestion about not going for somebody in the town core of my town core was what lead to proposing zeniba) combined with wanting to eliminate a protective role for later. The other possibility is that Gluelock was the original target in which case I'm lost as to why. Boomfrog being directly killed is unlikely because we have a mod confirmed protect on them.

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Seven wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:25 pm I'm saying I don't think scum can self-target. i.e. that the factional kill can be done by one member against the other. Again though, I'm not sure.

I think marshy killed his teammate in his first game on xkcd swag.

Seven wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:05 am Makhaira
LaserGuy
JC

EGW

Town: Gluelock, somitomi, bessie, Heury, Adum

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In the 2-2 scenario it's Laser/Mak - JC/Trisscar
In the 3-1 scenario it's Laser/Mak/Trisscar - EGW

Why are you voting a town read? O keep jumping between town reading and scum reading Seven

EGW wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:28 pm

bessie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:23 pmI don't think this happened. I just found it interesting that you did not think of this. Or you are again interpreting things in a way to advance your narrative.

I understand why he would pick myself over Gluelock, so not really a problem. Also, Gluelock doesn't seem to be that invested. Don't see it as a helpful choice for Zen.

I meant I don't think Seven shot Gluelock hoping that BoomFrog targeted Gluelock.

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Yaaaaa, I don't believe we have two neighborizers, at least town neighborizers, EGW is confirming Seven's ability, Seven is correct that Heury doubted neighborizers before, and what possible reason is there not to neighborize D1?

This claim stinks, hyper yeetable");

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And why did Heury not CC Seven last game day then?");

Anyone that believes that I wasn't making a joke claim has to be mafia

VOTE: AdumbroDeus

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Oh and Bessie, if you don't think he protected Gluelock, who do you think he protected? Again, we know he was protected himself so the only way they could get to him was through his target unless you're speculating there was a strongman kill");

heuristically_alone wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:38 pm

Seven wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:05 am Makhaira
LaserGuy
JC

EGW

Town: Gluelock, somitomi, bessie, Heury, Adum

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In the 2-2 scenario it's Laser/Mak - JC/Trisscar
In the 3-1 scenario it's Laser/Mak/Trisscar - EGW

Why are you voting a town read? O keep jumping between town reading and scum reading Seven

Because I want to move on. The sooner you claim, the sooner we can do that.

Lunch break is about to end but I'll be on hopefully a couple hours before deadline. My character name is The Iron Giant.

Seven wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:17 pmDid he use those words?

Nevermind, he didn't in the game I was thinking of. Also I was wrong, it was 3DSninja, not Darkpit. I just scanned through D1, didn't see the exact statement. But I thought he did somewhere.

heuristically_alone wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:27 pm @Bessie have we had a game before where scum had a neighborizer ability?

I do remember there was a game where a bunch of players randomly had chats and I had a chat with scum laserguy, but I don't think that was an action, I think it was randomly chosen at the start of the game but I don't recall.

Nothing comes to mind but I will think about it.

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heuristically_alone wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:24 pm

Seven wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:19 pm

heuristically_alone wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:16 pm I did not target anyone last night. But seven you should definitely target me tonight. I have private info for you.

If you're neighborizer why did you imply there wouldn't be a neighborizer in the game because Sabrar doesn't like them?

It was a joke. I'll claim if I get more votes on me. It would not be beneficial to town of I claim prematurely

Oh, a reminder as to why I should double check everything.

So what exactly was the point of that little Gambit?

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AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:45 pm Oh and Bessie, if you don't think he protected Gluelock, who do you think he protected? Again, we know he was protected himself so the only way they could get to him was through his target unless you're speculating there was a strongman kill");

I think BoomFrog may have been protected from something besides a kill. Like an arsonist or poisoner.

AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:12 pm I'm saying your response was to Laser responding a post EGW made. Not Seven.

Seems like an odd mistake to make especially when pointed out twice or/not clarifying why you brought up Seven in response to Laser roasting EGW.

ok, you got me there, no idea how my brain misfired like that.

bessie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:55 pm So you are confirming that your read of heury and I as masons is based on things Seven has been pushing in the thread. Noted.

I'd say that my read is based on things that you two have said in thread, but perhaps I'm arguing semantics here.

Seven wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:05 pm I'm talking about this, I cut out the wrong part:

somitomi wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:51 pm That read was based on what Fred said as they were subbing out not just the fact that he did though. I'm not sure how strong that is, but I can see that a

I'm not sure how strong that is, but I can see that as a genuine read.

heuristically_alone wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:08 pm
Sounds an awful lot like laserguy is trying convince people rather than give evidence. Very wolfy for him. When has town laser ever felt the need to convince people? Sounds like he's trying really hard to sound towny.

VOTE:Laserguy

He's literally giving evidence of past games where he did this kind of thing. And also, people (including you) were scumreading LaserGuy for not trying to convince people then he does and now that's scummy?
Doctor, my head...

heuristically_alone wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:24 pm It was a joke. I'll claim if I get more votes on me. It would not be beneficial to town of I claim prematurely

Then why not just say that?

VOTE: Heury
Lemme hear that actual claim

aaaand I botched the quote, good going, idiot

Seven wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:05 pm I'm talking about this, I cut out the wrong part:

somitomi wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:51 pm That read was based on what Fred said as they were subbing out not just the fact that he did though. I'm not sure how strong that is, but I can see that a

I'm not sure how strong that is, but I can see that as a genuine read.

somitomi wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:12 amMoody has become more suspicious to me, soft-backtracking on that early bessie townread multiple people commented on is not a great look, but I'm not quite finished mulling over the things that happened after I went to sleep mode.

What's your updated read on Moody?