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AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:54 am They should be toDay's lynch.

Sabrar wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:25 am

AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:54 am They should be toDay's lynch.

Because of the unfortunate connotations this community tried to move away from using 'lynch' as the base-word for elimination. Please use 'yeet', 'elim' or any similar alternatives instead.
Apologies for not mentioning this sooner.

bessie wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 1:56 am

LaserGuy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:05 pm You think that the heury/bessie stuff was all just coincidence?

To what heury/bessie stuff are you referring?

LaserGuy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:47 pm Sorry that’s a typo. Zeniba flipped scum, not mafia. I know that I am always careful to distinguish when I mean mafia or indie, or I sometimes use scum interchangeably with non-town to refer to any non-town alignment. But not everyone else does. I’m saying my reading of the flip was that Zeniba was non-town.

Interesting how you didn’t catch my typo, and also how you mistakenly believed Zeniba flipped mafia. It’s as if you didn’t even read the flip. I wonder why you wouldn’t hmmmm...

EGW wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 4:40 am Seven, in addition to your points on LaserGuy, he also has premature town reads on Heury and Moody on page 2

Seven wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 12:38 am Laser has had terrible reasons for concluding Mak and Trisscar to be town. Mak because "he misread the town flavor as indy" and Trisscar because "Fred replaced out". The first is a super stretch and while I initially thought that Adum and Laser were talking past each other in their back and forth on it, I think I actually just put words in Laser's mouth that he was able to use as a get out of jail free card. The reasoning is actually a gigantic stretch and he probably didn't actually mean that he understood Frozen's post as a joke.

With regard to the Trisscar reasoning, I mentioned yesterday that I disagreed and that Fred was likely to sub out as a wolf. Fred had a hard time wolfing in millirizer mafia. Didn't enjoy it as much as town so he had a good chance of being a RWSTFO. I don't think anyone who read Millerizer should have thought his sub out increased his odds of being town. This is a negative point for heury too.

LaserGuy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:16 am

EGW wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 4:40 am Seven, in addition to your points on LaserGuy, he also has premature town reads on Heury and Moody on page 2

So you just have no idea about anything about my playstyle, is what I'm reading here? Or you actually know this is wrong and are pushing me in bad faith?

Yes, that's something I do every game. Not moody and Heury specifically, but I usually try to read a handful of people very early in the game as part of my sort. Those reads actually tend to be the most accurate reads I have all game.

Here's a grab bag of examples. I'm sure I could find a dozen more if I wanted to.

Page 1 townread of Boom and moody in Hallowe'en 2021. I was Town
Page 2 townread of heury in Strange Things. I'm SK
Page 3 townreads of Dark Horse, and somitomi. I was Town.
Page 1 townread of Raxxal, scumread of NSG. I was mafia (with Raxxal).
Page 1 townread of Darkpit. This is also the game where I caught bessie as scum off of a single post. I was Town.
Notably, I did this a lot in Sumting Sumting Mafia: Page 2 townreads on Malakandra (and 3DS but I withdrew it). Another of Xivii. I was Town. Curious. You were in this game and have referenced it several times, and you were Town. From a quick look, did not seem to find this behaviour notable at the time.

You have been repeatedly trying to meta read me based on wrong information and behaviour that is basically NAI for me. You can't find anything to push me for in this game, so you try to push me based on things from other games, but your baseline is completely and demonstrably faulty.

JC_DADDY25 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:18 am

AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:31 am System.out.println("

JC_DADDY25 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:02 am

I went back and read everything involving Seven's post about getting the message you were human, because Adum prompted me to read what Seven said after that as if i missed something. Only thing i seemed to have missed is Adum giving Seven an out for that claim, that she got no message and was going off a BC from Adum's post. I believe Adum prompted Seven twice on that subject, so I guess I did miss something and I'm not sure how i feel about that interaction..

Yep, that's the response that suggests you just missed it and your willingness to revise is noted.

That said, I suggest you reread the interaction a few more times and reread the earlier posts between seven and me a few times, because I didn't give him an out and even when reading back, what he misunderstood is perfectly understandable in context.

Oh and still want you to explain Mak a bit more.

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Oh no, you noted it?

Go ahead and take a screen shot while you're at it, then stare at that screen shot while you wait for that explanation you want.

LaserGuy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:24 am

Seven wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 12:38 am Laser has had terrible reasons for concluding Mak and Trisscar to be town. Mak because "he misread the town flavor as indy" and Trisscar because "Fred replaced out". The first is a super stretch and while I initially thought that Adum and Laser were talking past each other in their back and forth on it, I think I actually just put words in Laser's mouth that he was able to use as a get out of jail free card. The reasoning is actually a gigantic stretch and he probably didn't actually mean that he understood Frozen's post as a joke.

I feel like I've discussed this to death and there's nothing more to say here. tl;dr my read does not change here on whether or not Mak was joking.

With regard to the Trisscar reasoning, I mentioned yesterday that I disagreed and that Fred was likely to sub out as a wolf. Fred had a hard time wolfing in millirizer mafia. Didn't enjoy it as much as town so he had a good chance of being a RWSTFO. I don't think anyone who read Millerizer should have thought his sub out increased his odds of being town. This is a negative point for heury too.

I've only played 1 game with Fred I think, and I'm pretty sure he was Town. This is more of a general behaviour that I've observed in replacements, though admittedly, it was wrong in this case. I don't think I read much passed D1 in Millerizer and don't really remember anything about games that I didn't play in.

I'm curious what you think my reasoning would have been for so readily joining the Trisscar wagon rather than doing just about anything else in that situation though.

LaserGuy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:48 am

LaserGuy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:47 pm Sorry that’s a typo. Zeniba flipped scum, not mafia. I know that I am always careful to distinguish when I mean mafia or indie, or I sometimes use scum interchangeably with non-town to refer to any non-town alignment. But not everyone else does. I’m saying my reading of the flip was that Zeniba was non-town.

Interesting how you didn’t catch my typo, and also how you mistakenly believed Zeniba flipped mafia. It’s as if you didn’t even read the flip. I wonder why you wouldn’t hmmmm...

So either I was hallucinating at some point or I will be grumping about this in GoJoe later, but I am fairly certain that at some point (possibly in the OP?) that Zeniba had specifically flipped mafia. I checked with Madge if she edited this out of the OP and she said no comment so I'm just gonna have to kind of shrug at this one.

Laser wrote:my read does not change here on whether or not Mak was joking.

LaserGuy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:27 am

JC_DADDY25 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:18 am

AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:31 am System.out.println("



Yep, that's the response that suggests you just missed it and your willingness to revise is noted.

That said, I suggest you reread the interaction a few more times and reread the earlier posts between seven and me a few times, because I didn't give him an out and even when reading back, what he misunderstood is perfectly understandable in context.

Oh and still want you to explain Mak a bit more.

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Oh no, you noted it?

Go ahead and take a screen shot while you're at it, then stare at that screen shot while you wait for that explanation you want.

I love the sass. JC giving me townie vibes.

Seven wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:01 pm Somi’s read list is very suss. He always puts me as the bottom when hes scum. And puts people ive pushed also on the bottom. Inconsistent world view of scum who just need to push someone

AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:40 am SHROOP? That genuinely seems like the stupidest tell I've ever seen. Everyone should be revising posts constantly because they're double checking their information and making sure their thought process holds up. Hell I revised this post to put SHROOP in with a question mark ahead of it because I wanted to make sure it was obvious I was tackling two different subjects.

With people who rarely scrutinize their thought process as town and always post off the cuff, maybe. But Somi doesn't strike me that way.

heuristically_alone wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:38 am Who counts the number of vibes someone used in a game? What maniac of a person do you have to be and what made you pinpoint that?

JC_DADDY25 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:40 amVibe.

LaserGuy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:16 am So you just have no idea about anything about my playstyle, is what I'm reading here? Or you actually know this is wrong and are pushing me in bad faith?

somitomi wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:01 am

LaserGuy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:16 am So you just have no idea about anything about my playstyle, is what I'm reading here? Or you actually know this is wrong and are pushing me in bad faith?

Seven misrepresenting something, where have I seen this before?

LaserGuy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:27 am

JC_DADDY25 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:18 am

AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:31 am System.out.println("



Yep, that's the response that suggests you just missed it and your willingness to revise is noted.

That said, I suggest you reread the interaction a few more times and reread the earlier posts between seven and me a few times, because I didn't give him an out and even when reading back, what he misunderstood is perfectly understandable in context.

Oh and still want you to explain Mak a bit more.

");

Oh no, you noted it?

Go ahead and take a screen shot while you're at it, then stare at that screen shot while you wait for that explanation you want.

I love the sass. JC giving me townie vibes.

somi wrote:town so he had a good chance of being a

AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:41 am That was EGW...

Seven wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:38 pm

somi wrote:town so he had a good chance of being a

@somi what were you going to say?

somitomi wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:53 pm

AdumbroDeus wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:41 am That was EGW...

Can you point me to some examples?
Also, do you think I'm wrong about Seven doing that?

Seven wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:38 pm

somi wrote:town so he had a good chance of being a

@somi what were you going to say?

Hang on, that doesn't look like anything I said, what are you playing at?

LaserGuy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:16 amYou have been repeatedly trying to meta read me based on wrong information and behaviour that is basically NAI for me. You can't find anything to push me for in this game, so you try to push me based on things from other games, but your baseline is completely and demonstrably faulty.

moody7277 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:50 amI figured it's been long enough that that cliche belongs to everyone now.

Bessie read: +4.

LaserGuy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 4:04 amKind of want to soul read moody and heury as Town.

moody7277 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:45 pm Well, I was a bit distracted by the eclipse, but right now my choices for elim would be Mak or huery.

JC_DADDY25 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:53 amI've only played one game with Gluelock, and while he was town i felt like he was wolfy almost the entire game. He said stuff at times that just made me feel that he could not be town sided, and at others he made solves that helped us win the game.

Seven wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 12:38 am Mak is scum. I think y'all are forcing the town read on him hard. The way he treated Zeniba is omega suss and it was clear that he was trying real hard at the end of the day to get someone to give him a reason to vote me, but no one could give him anything so he just sat out.

somitomi wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:51 pm

bessie wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 1:56 am This is for somitomi only. Describe in your own words my link with heury. Since it is so obvious to you, it should be easy for you to make a case.

Oooh, extra special homework just for me, me, me!
Perhaps the word "obvious" was a stretch, it only clicked today when Seven mentioned that you two look like masons, but it's just an amalgamation of little things: you were both townreading each other on D1 a bit oddly (Heury gave a townread pretty early whereas you put him on the woofmost place with a rather nulltown reasoning), Heury came to your defense pretty strongly when he though LG was scumreading you and he also followed you onto the Seven wagon without ever expressing much suspicion about him before that.
I don't yet know how to interpret this all, but I do think something is going on between you two.

somitomi wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:51 pm Why would Seven lie about something that's so easy to get caught on?

Seven wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:01 pm Somi’s read list is very suss. He always puts me as the bottom when hes scum. And puts people ive pushed also on the bottom. Inconsistent world view of scum who just need to push someone

JC_DADDY25 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:32 am Seven - Aside from trying to get me lynched last day phase, I feel like Seven has been jumping around throwing shit against the wall seeing what sticks. That's not necessarily wolfie, but add in the link to a previous specific game to show how they feel about a subject they're being accused of seems preplanned and easily faked, so this feels like the right spot.

Seven wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:56 am

Seven wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 4:11 am Mak: Again, misreading Zeniba's moody quotes as Zeniba's thoughts.

I also misread this at first. I really had to dig through it because I thought she had combined her own reads with the quotes.

Key thing is that you weren't giving positive points to her for it, Mak was. You dug through, Mak didn't.

Seven wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:57 am @bessie I noticed you have some suss on Laser. You should join me and Ran.

LaserGuy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:48 am I've noted one or two examples previously. tl;dr you two are both reading each other very weirdly. If nothing else, the fact that you plunked heury at the top of your Town reads for very spurious reasons is the way that you traditionally note a mason buddy or someone that you have alignment info on.

LaserGuy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:24 am Also kind of sussing Seven for not being aware of the above as well, as he definitely should be.