Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D2]

[Wam]

You too on the no elim question por favor.

I can elaborate but for many reasons I never think.it pays to NE day 1. So didn't occur to me.

[Freddino18]

Looking like the hammer will be while I sleep. This is an incomplete thought, I don't know what else I want to say.

[AdumbroDeus]

Weigh in on the no elim question? ^_^

[AdumbroDeus]

You too on the no elim question por favor.

I can elaborate but for many reasons I never think.it pays to NE day 1. So didn't occur to me.

Thanks.

Also, you're already the presumptive elim, I think if purely for setup analysis reasons, you should explain the parrot power. I guess we'll presumably get your character name when you flip.

[Seven]

Vote: JC

[AdumbroDeus]

Vote: JC

Answer my question about your rolename please?

[Theallieza]

Adum is claiming he was the target of the NK, which is incompatible with your result.

Thea, I recognize you're busy but this is flat out incorrect. They're claiming they can only see the role names of people who visited me, so any of the two JOATs or the cop could've carried the NK. Their claim is they thought the other JOAT was a doc.

No, in practice only the 2nd JoaT could be mafia. We know what the other two players did, and neither one of them would have copped you and also attempted to NK you.

What doesn't make sense with this claim or him being town is given I already discounted lightning rod effect and and psychic effect, why'd I'd think I was the target and survived until he knew my role. He should've thought his claim conflicted with mine but didn't put the thought into it!

This doesn't mean he's mafia, just he didn't put thought into it.

[Makhaira]

Votals:
Bessie - 1 - Makhaira
Wam - 5 - Seven, Bessie, Santygrass, Adum, moody
JC - 2 - Thea, Fred
somi - 1 - wam

Not voting: JC, Somi

11 players alive and 7 to hammer.

Sorry Sabrar you made a typo here, 6 is majority with 12 players.

this 7 figure is correct, my previous posts saying 6 to hammer were incorrect and I have since edited them

I am monumentally confused. If 11 people are alive, 6 is a majority.

So unless something is in play that affects majority calculations, and assuming the VC here is correct, then:

Thanks you, that makes sense now.

Vote: Wam

I believe that's E-1

This was hammer

[AdumbroDeus]

Adum is claiming he was the target of the NK, which is incompatible with your result.

Thea, I recognize you're busy but this is flat out incorrect. They're claiming they can only see the role names of people who visited me, so any of the two JOATs or the cop could've carried the NK. Their claim is they thought the other JOAT was a doc.

No, in practice only the 2nd JoaT could be mafia. We know what the other two players did, and neither one of them would have copped you and also attempted to NK you.

Your in practice doesn't disagree with what I'm saying. I was correcting your misconception in practice.

In theory, hopefully I'll be able to revisit this when we have more info.

What doesn't make sense with this claim or him being town is given I already discounted lightning rod effect and and psychic effect, why'd I'd think I was the target and survived until he knew my role. He should've thought his claim conflicted with mine but didn't put the thought into it!

This doesn't mean he's mafia, just he didn't put thought into it.

My point is that he's scum BECAUSE he didn't put thought into it because he had no incentivie to do so.

Scum incentives, if he believes I'm near positive I was targeted by one of the mafia and he's mafia that didn't shoot me, my slot doesn't matter for him anymore so he's fine taking the popular opinion since there's almost no chance I'll be yeeted.

Town has a lot of other options because we don't know for sure it's multiball (scum presumably would from the setup), don't know if I'm Indy, etc. They need to put more effort into it and at the very least if they had that strong of a read, figure out what I'm doing so they can know what I know and put it in their back pocket.

Think how I figured out JC was town last Halloween.

Wam isn't exactly a hyper-poster, but he's smart, thinks critically. I don't read him as being a lazy player.

[Seven]

Madge has already confirmed that it’s correct.

[Wam]

You too on the no elim question por favor.

I can elaborate but for many reasons I never think.it pays to NE day 1. So didn't occur to me.

Thanks.

Also, you're already the presumptive elim, I think if purely for setup analysis reasons, you should explain the parrot power. I guess we'll presumably get your character name when you flip.

It's a 1 shot I don't think it will help the setup analysis.

Yes but others have seen my very unsubtle crumb so won't be much of a surprise.

[Sabrar]

Votals:
Wam - 5 - Bessie, Santygrass, Adum, moody, somi
JC - 3 - Thea, Fred, Seven
Bessie - 1 - Makhaira
Santy - 1 - JC
somi - 1 - wam

11 players alive and still 7 to hammer

[Wam]

I'm confused

I'm guessing a double voter who hasn't used their 2nd vote

That's a thing? Maybe I'm misremembering my Mafia history but I thought double voters' vote don't count for number required for majority.

I have seen it both ways, I.e double voter does and doesn't chnage the number required

[Wam]

I disagree but I will self pres

vote JC

[AdumbroDeus]

Sorry Sabrar you made a typo here, 6 is majority with 12 players.

this 7 figure is correct, my previous posts saying 6 to hammer were incorrect and I have since edited them

I am monumentally confused. If 11 people are alive, 6 is a majority.

So unless something is in play that affects majority calculations, and assuming the VC here is correct, then:

Thanks you, that makes sense now.

Vote: Wam

I believe that's E-1

This was hammer

Wam thinks we have a double voter. Which TBH I don't think I ever heard of affecting majority numbers before.

Other possibility is hiding a loved modifier on Wam I guess... And for anyone else it would be Elim at the same vote total.

[Seven]

Wam and Mak, care to join is on JC?

[AdumbroDeus]

Madge has already confirmed that it’s correct.

Seven, I'm asking you once more to answer with your actual role name. This may be important.

Also, the "no elim" question would be nice too, but not as crucial.

[AdumbroDeus]

Also, why JC? And is something making you doubt scum-Wam?

[Makhaira]

Vote: JC

Dont want to elim JC but id rather not elim if it's not gonna be Bessie or somi at this point, the pile ons are crazy scummy

Majority elim rule affecting power is crazy lol

[Makhaira]

Tie = no elim btw folks. My hearings are about to start I'll check in again in about 3 hours

[Makhaira]

JC I highly recommend forcing a tie and not voting wam here, the wagon on him is almost def scum pushed imo

[JC_DADDY25]

smh

[Makhaira]

With the no kill last night we can afford to no elim here, sorry to vote you but like this wam wagon feels ultra grody

[JC_DADDY25]

Nah, I'll get hammered anyway. Either way, I'm pretty sure it's a town elim

[JC_DADDY25]

And mine doesn't?