Tales of Desolation mafia Day 2

[EGW]

Notice the similarity here.

[Wam]

It goes back to.what I was saying day start about sabrar being likely to.shoot bessie and I have a memory of.some posts around the night results giving a tmi vibe I will.go.back and see if I can find them.

I'm also wondering about this.

I got distracted by the chaos

I was wrong, I thought sabrar had only poked at the moody kill not bessies but I was wrong see post below.

https://ramenchef.net/nxf/viewtopic.php?p=85306#p85306

But your 100% comes from huery faking the scumslip? But I don't see how that is AI at all. I can see that sabrar claims scum have false claims heury checks with mod and gets a different error as both alignments.

It doesn't at all. Re-read to see why I believe Heury is scum. It was supporting evidence, but not the crux of my evidence. This shows you aren't reading.

I will re read it tomorrow my brain is not working.

[EGW]

I retract my hippo scumread. I think Wam is scum in place of Hippo.

Scum: Heury > Boom > Wam.

[EGW]

Heury being most confident.

[EGW]

When are you going to start talking about who you're fine with dying today rather than repeating other players' thoughts?

You handsome man you, join me. Also, how do you feel about Boom voting Bubbles?

My memory is not the best but I think it was Boomfrog that once said he doesn't vote scum partners on D1. If Bubbles flips scum, Boom wouldn't be by top consideration for D2

This is still very odd when Boomfrog is his #1 scumread.

[EGW]

I love you. I hope we get to chat and hang out outside the game. Anyone want to pounce on BoomFrog with me?

The timing of this while not joining me earlier, pings me.

[EGW]

Wam/Sabrar/Bubblez/Bop, these 4 I do want to look at closer today. Sabrar I don't want to consider for elim. Bubblez is still higher on my list for elim.

Then he doesn't even have Boom as a focus for Day 2.

Still leaning scum. I am concerned about his claim. He was the first to suggest we claim our flavor alignments then just happened to be targeted by 2 flavor cops? The concern is that both he and a scum partner are flavor cops and it helps scum somehow if we claim.

Yet he still leans scum on him. Why is he not focusing him today? It's because he's been distancing from him the entire game, as I originally thought.

[somitomi]

Unvote
Vote: EGW

I have a mechanical solve that says scum-team is {EGW, JC, Santy} by PoE.
I welcome people to argue against it either by pointing out connections or just general reasoning.
I might explain some of my observations later but providing full explanation would probably reveal too much info for scum.

Not sure how we're supposed to argue against a solve that's so top secret we don't even get to see it.

Mak. Talk to me. I think I've solved the game, truly this time.

Everyone coming out with their complete solves and I'm sitting here having no idea what's going on

Was thinking about the game and have a few mins over lunch

I have reason to believe that sabrar was not attempting to roleblock me by targeting me which is slight protown points for sab. Cant say much affirmatively tho about what he did do or try to do unfortunately

Can someone link me to this alleged scumslip by sabrar? I must have missed it because I have no idea what everyone is talking about when they mention that

Sorry all ive just been insanely busy and havent been able to give much undivided attention to the game this phase

I'm really starting to wonder what Moody knows and who told them if you're not the source of that information

FYI I'm out of town all week. Flying out today. I should be able to keep up with the game still but won't have as much time force appear as town.

I can't tell if you're joking here

I think Ahippo claimed Motivator, and ignored your advice to claim that he targetted Sabrar. He didn't actually get motivated, he's confirming it to have us believe Ahippo is the role he claims to be. So yes, the underlined is what I'm saying.

So your current solve is Mak, Sabrar, ahippo?

Personally Im of the opinion we dont flip sab here, let him do his supported night and assuming he survives the night he full claims everything tomorrow

I'll be frank I don't really see the reason to flip Sabrar here

I think he does if he is the one that plans it from the beginning. I dropped Hippo and thought he may be just lost in the sauce. However, look at his post I quoted. He said he'd have a day off, but then no reads came of that. Feels like scum that got locktown read, and took advantage of that.

Hang on now, is ahippo's claim a mistake Sabrar is covering for or some gambit masterminded by Sabrar?

What I mean to say is, he is bussing Sabrar, but his reasoning is not genuine. Using a scumslip helps relieve himself to use reasoning. However, I never took stock into the scumslip, which is why I believe it was just an excuse not to analyze Sabrar's play. The more I think about this, the more I think that Heury is scum faking a read on Town Sabrar.

Ok, so is Sabrar town now or is Heury bussing him? Actually never mind, Sabrar already pointed out this sequence of events makes no sense if they're both scum. But it also makes no sense if Heury is scum, because in that scenario he doesn't need to ask the mods about the fakeclaims when he claims to and, crucially, the reply he already knows would not be "no comment". And we know he didn't make that up, because Adum acknowledged the mistake in thread. No, the only logical explanation here is that Heury is in fact town and thought he caught Sabrar on a slip, at which point of course no further analysis takes place. Scumhunt.exe found a slip and returned 0 exit status.

@Adum: can we get a votecount please?

[Sabrar]

I'm so getting an earful from Boomfrog.

[EGW]

I feel like that isn't the only logical explanation and my gut is 100% on Huery being scum here. Especially with his actions around Boom. I'm sticking to that. I'm willing for the day to be EGW v Huery if it comes to it. That's how much I believe in it.

[AdumbroDeus]

Sorry this has taken so long, full 2 game summery (with some notes from the anime) is available here

I will post it in the OP

[AdumbroDeus]

Vote count 2.5
1. Makhaira(0) -
2. EGW(3) - Sabrar, heuristically_alone, Wam
3. Wam(1) - Santygrass
4. Sabrar(1) - Boomfrog,
5. ahippo(0) -
6. TehBubblez Somitomi(0) -
7. Boomfrog(0) -
8. Bop(0) -
9. JC_DADDY25(0) -
10. heuristically_alone(1) - EGW,
11. Madge(0) -
12. Laserguy Santygrass(0) -

Not voting: Makhaira, ahippo, Somitomi, Bop, JC_Daddy25, Madge

With 12 players alive it takes 7 to eliminate

Day 2 ends Thursday January 30th at 2 am.

[Sabrar]

@AdumbroDeus: wam voted EGW here and EGW is not voting himself.

[EGW]

I'm not voting myself.

[AdumbroDeus]

I'm not voting myself.

@AdumbroDeus: wam voted EGW here and EGW is not voting himself.

Thank you both, moved the wrong name without noticing which is why EGW appears twice, has been corrected.

[heuristically_alone]

vote egw Your wriggling like a worm on a hook

How so?

Your solve is changing by the minute as people poke holes in your theory around huery and sabrar

Ooo nice. Wam probably is town.

@EGW when I flip town, how does that affect your reads on sabrar, ahippo and wam?

[EGW]

If you flip, Town, scum, scum. The lack of reads still concerns me. Now for you Huery. Why didn't you join me on Boom D1, and why did you choose to vote him so late?

[EGW]

*If you flip town

[EGW]

Also I have only seen you put effort as mafia.

[heuristically_alone]

I vocally was pushing for Boom D1. And put in vote late D1 to boom knowing there needed to be some votes already there if I was to convince majority of town to join me.

[EGW]

That doesn't answer my question. I asked you to join me but you didn't when we had the time.

[heuristically_alone]

Also I have only seen you put effort as mafia.

You need to play more with me then.

[heuristically_alone]

That doesn't answer my question. I asked you to join me but you didn't when we had the time.

I don't recall this. You assume I read and recall each post thoroughly

[heuristically_alone]

I am not opposed to your vote for me. I know you like to build competing wagons.

[EGW]

Unvote; Vote: Boomfrog

When are you going to start talking about who you're fine with dying today rather than repeating other players' thoughts?

You handsome man you, join me. Also, how do you feel about Boom voting Bubbles?

My memory is not the best but I think it was Boomfrog that once said he doesn't vote scum partners on D1. If Bubbles flips scum, Boom wouldn't be by top consideration for D2