Tales of Desolation mafia Day 2

[AdumbroDeus]

Vote count 2.2
1. Makhaira(0) -
2. EGW(0) -
3. Wam(0) -
4. Sabrar(0) -
5. ahippo(0) -
6. TehBubblez Somitomi(0) -
7. Boomfrog(2) - EGW, Sabrar
8. Bop(0) -
9. JC_DADDY25(0) -
10. heuristically_alone(0) -
11. Madge(0) -
12. Laserguy Santygrass(0) -

Not voting: Makhaira, Wam, ahippo, Somitomi, Boomfrog, Bop, JC_Daddy25, heuristically_alone, Madge, Santygrass

With 12 players alive it takes 7 to eliminate

It is now Day 2. Day 2 ends January 26th at 4 pm EST.

Note: I'm trying to do the deadline before work this week instead of after. I hope that works better for people's schedules. Since it's a little shorter, if that's an inconvenient time I'm willing to move to monday evening without consuming an extension.

[boomfrog]

@BF: If you're thinking something like association with a Lord of Calamity is correlated with scum, I've got bad news for you. I was associated with a Lord of Calamity (named Velvet, very tacky dresser), so that might explode your theory if it was such. I also would feel highly unqualified to pick claim order.

I think it will be helpful but I'd rather not explain how it will be helpful because than scum can work around my plans.

[boomfrog]

Vote JC

You are lurking hard my dude.

[madge]

do we think there's an indy who has something to do with the calamity/shepherd thing? like, visit all sheperds / kill all calamities / other?

just boomfrog asking everyone to claim theres (if they're not flavour indicative) struck me as odd

[madge]

apologies i haven't had enough time for this game, things are easing up at work, but still pretty hectic so don't expect much for at least a wek sorz

[JC_DADDY25]

Vote JC

You are lurking hard my dude.

Not really, was catching up on 3 pages of posts between driving my wife and kid around to find some shoes. Do I have time to eat my dinner now that I'm home?

[boomfrog]

JC
Low content but that's normal and I like what is there.

What do you like about JC's content?

[boomfrog]

Vote JC

You are lurking hard my dude.

Not really, was catching up on 3 pages of posts between driving my wife and kid around to find some shoes. Do I have time to eat my dinner now that I'm home?

Yeah man, you've got all night. But I'm not just referring to today

[JC_DADDY25]

do we think there's an indy who has something to do with the calamity/shepherd thing? like, visit all sheperds / kill all calamities / other?

just boomfrog asking everyone to claim theres (if they're not flavour indicative) struck me as odd

I still feel Heury may be our indy, if not he's scum. He's doing really well at trying to appear town, I'll give him that.

As far as Boom goes, I think his post claiming he may show up as scum to a flavor cop was strange, but he wasn't the first one to bring up a mass claim of who everyone was aligned with... it was LaserGuy. So I don't think that is AI.

[ahippo]

Please deliver me from the handshake. Please for the love of god deliver me from the handshake. Also, was there aggression from me on ahippo?? I don't think there was unless I'm misreading what you're saying.

Genuinely. That has always been a nothing-burger.

Doin' a bit of catch-up here. Did anyone claim to get my motivate? It's very possible it was blocked, and afaik, the target has not spoken up yet. There might be a good reason they're not saying, but I was hoping that person could confirm they were motivated. Would help my case re not being scum.

If you targeted someone without a power, do you think they would still be notified?

Really, not sure. I would have at least hoped? Definitely no hard confirmation that my power succeeded, nor that anyone was aware I was the one who sent it.

My biggest concern is that my rando wheel landed on scum. If I landed on a townie, they
A: Had a night action and used it twice
B: Had no night action and weren't informed
C: Had no night action but were informed

In circumstance A, I can understand wanting to hide that fact by not claiming motivation. In B, well, they just didn't know. In C, they would claim. No claim, so not C.

Now of course if I did land on scum, there's not a chance in hell they'd own up to it, unless they were willing to make a particularly bold lie to follow. And we certainly haven't gotten that yet.

[ahippo]

Oh, sorry, duh

D: My dumb-ass got blocked.

[Sabrar]

@Santygrass: welcome! Why did you think Mak got stumped?

[heuristically_alone]

My biggest concern is that my rando wheel landed on scum. If I landed on a townie, they
A: Had a night action and used it twice
B: Had no night action and weren't informed
C: Had no night action but were informed

In circumstance A, I can understand wanting to hide that fact by not claiming motivation. In B, well, they just didn't know. In C, they would claim. No claim, so not C.

Now of course if I did land on scum, there's not a chance in hell they'd own up to it, unless they were willing to make a particularly bold lie to follow. And we certainly haven't gotten that yet.

Ahippo is overly concerned with their own claimed role. The lack of any scum hunting is anti-town, but the hyperfixation on this claim makes me lean more towards it being a real claim rather than a scum gambit.

I still feel Heury may be our indy, if not he's scum. He's doing really well at trying to appear town, I'll give him that.

Thank you.
Also, I am claiming not indy.

[JC_DADDY25]

My biggest concern is that my rando wheel landed on scum. If I landed on a townie, they
A: Had a night action and used it twice
B: Had no night action and weren't informed
C: Had no night action but were informed

In circumstance A, I can understand wanting to hide that fact by not claiming motivation. In B, well, they just didn't know. In C, they would claim. No claim, so not C.

Now of course if I did land on scum, there's not a chance in hell they'd own up to it, unless they were willing to make a particularly bold lie to follow. And we certainly haven't gotten that yet.

Ahippo is overly concerned with their own claimed role. The lack of any scum hunting is anti-town, but the hyperfixation on this claim makes me lean more towards it being a real claim rather than a scum gambit.

I still feel Heury may be our indy, if not he's scum. He's doing really well at trying to appear town, I'll give him that.

Thank you.
Also, I am claiming not indy.

Well, if you're not indy then you have to be scum... right?

[heuristically_alone]

Absolutely not

[JC_DADDY25]

Well then I'm stumped, because you're not coming across as town to me. I'll take another look at your posts. Anything I should keep an eye out for?

[heuristically_alone]

I thought only Moody was stumped. I am fully aware that I am mis-yeeted D1 or D2 more often than not, so I have been putting in a purposeful effort to sound town, so that's likely what your noticing. I can't say you're that bad at the game for noticing that detail I do agree with your reads list for the most part, but disagree with your scum read of Sabrar and I think you should take a closer look at Wam.

[EGW]

Is a darkpit an emotionally fraught topic where it would be easy to insult someone in RL? I think we need to talk about it anyway because it's the basis you are judging me on. Or do you not actually want to sort me but just stick to your conclusions?

I don't understand the question. Please reframe it. I'm willing to talk about it. I don't know why you say the underlined.

I seriously considered giving him a pass D1 anyway, but I'm kinda exhausted by how many people I don't want to yeet D1. I didn't push LG because he'd declared low energy. I don't want to yeet wam or heury or moody because they get missyeeted D1 too often. I don't want to yeet sabrar or bessie or you because you are valuable scum hunters if town.

I appreciate the sentiment, and you are a strong scumhunter yourself. Yet I find today important to elim correctly, and I think you are the correct elim.

It's exhausting and I'm considering not playing elimination games anymore. But I don't want to get too into that detail right now. So I thought bubblez was caught scum and I decided fuck it.

Your appeal to emotion feels out of place here. As in, the timing seems odd. It happens now, and not the day before when you responded.

[EGW]

Vote JC

You are lurking hard my dude.

I don't get the feeling that he is lurking, and I actually find him genuine, compared to Ahippo. This feels forced.

[heuristically_alone]

Started doing an entire in depth reads list and only got through ahippo and too tired to finish boomfrogs. Will try to do get them all in by Saturday.

Ahippo – has been very transparent about lack of strong reads and his in general confusion. Also they don’t feel defensive when being questioned or accused which I feel is more natural for town. That coupled with the early role claim and transparency of how it would be used (random number generator). I am concerned with the lack of scum hunting. If they were scum, following suit with this style of gameplay I think he would bus, so I propose Laserguy is a scum partner as they put him as the scummiest player. Lean Town.

[EGW]

Santy's reads are predictable and align with Laser's reads. Feels like he has to push in that direction. It also makes me realize that, Laser had been unfair towards me, most likely because he felt like he needed to scumread me. Doesn't really have any unique takes.

[EGW]

Finally, if we are dealing with two scum here, then I'll reconsider my read on Ahippo. At the moment, he seems to be digging himself further in a hole in my mind, but he doesn't seem to be progressing a win con to survive at the moment. Yet I still maintain the original claim was intended with that in mind. In a team of three, Ahippo is my pick.

[EGW]

Boomfrog's latest AtE and his forced push on JC feels mistimed, and I believe it's due to having more motivation to play now that Santy has arrived to help nudge him to try harder. Boomfrog does not seem genuine on this page or the page before.

[EGW]

I think I'm changing Wam from scum to null. Reading Laser wrong, I sort of POE'd Wam since I struggle to read him. Santy feels more of a hit than Wam.

[EGW]

Town [EGW > Sabrar > Heury > Somi > Bop > JC > Mak > Madge | Wam, Ahippo | HippoSanty > Boomfrog] Scum