Tales of Desolation mafia Day 2

[Sabrar]

Sabrar, the thing with Fred is that we have nothing on which to make a read. And if you read the last game, this could go on the entire game. The last game he was masons with Laser which was the only reason he got away with it.

I totally understand and that's why I'm willing to join the bottom 4 of my list to vote him off which is normally a crazy thing to do.

@heury: I appreciate the effort but I doubt we will have 6 more people online willing to switch.

[AdumbroDeus]

Vote count 1.14
1. Makhaira(0) -
2. EGW(0) -
3. Moody7277(0) -
4. Wam(0) -
5. Sabrar(0) -
6. ahippo(1) - , JC_DADDY25,
7. TehBubblez(5) - Makhaira, Bop, ahippo, madge, TehBubblez
8. Boomfrog(3) - Sabrar, heuristically_alone, EGW
9. Bop(0) -
10. Bessie(0) -
11. Freddino18(5) - LaserGuy, Wam, Moody7277, Bessie, Boomfrog
12. JC_DADDY25(0) -
13. heuristically_alone(0) -
14. Madge(0) -
15. Laserguy(0) -

Not voting: Freddino18

With 15 players alive it takes 8 to eliminate

The deadline is set for Sunday January 20th at 2 am EST.

[Sabrar]

Although I feel like I have to move EGW up, he is too blind to be scum. Probably.

[Makhaira]

Just hammer me it's fine, don't even want to play anymore anyway.

Thank you all so much for such a warm welcome here. I loved the chance to not play and instead be on a defensive backfoot this entire time, getting more and more frustrated at the pressure and absolute lack of anything I could do about it. You all took me saying "I play on and off" as apparently "I am good at this and played seriously at any point" which if that is the reads you are going with, damn good luck Town.

@Makhaira thank you especially for tunnel visioning and just refusing to look elsewhere. And now that your "egopicks" or whatever you call them are 0 for 4, maybe you should really re-evaluate your gameplay strategy.

Madge is protecting one scum for sure within hippo, fred, and heury, but other than that you all have my reads.

Thank you all for solidifying the fact that I hate this game and just get angry at it and don't even know why I signed up for this tbh.

have fun

Unvote, Vote:TehBubblez

I'm sorry to have upset you, I'm not sure what to say, its D1 and we dont have much to go on and you did something that is considered by many to be a pretty traditional scumtell. I never said I was for sure you were scum, but it was a place to start and your reaction to my single vote on you seemed kind of like a lot. If you cant handle even a single person suspecting you like idk what to say maybe mafia isnt for you? I was not hardcore going after you at all and calling this an "egoflip" when I've lightly pressured you at best is unnecessarily petty and I think places blame at my feet that I dont deserve. you didnt really do much at all in your defense so like that's not really on me. I have in no way shape or form ever said you should be the only slot we consider today, Im hardly tunneling you

Im probably scumreading you because youre so salty over basically nothing, so sorry if youre town but like you arent doing a great job at showing it

Vote: freddino I think this is the safer salvage yeet here

[Makhaira]

Mak, this is why I think competing wagons are healthy. I wouldn't have seen this without that being a thing.

never said I was opposed to this I agree that competing wagons are good, we are just getting to this stage way too late in the phase

- @Mak why is it scummy to vote ahippo due to claimed PR? like, i don't think they're scum, but their PR and claimed target strategy seems neutral to good for scum

its not scummy to vote ahippo here inherently, Im just saying that scum have incentive to sort the slot for us so Im not keen on using our elim to do that for us when I townread the claim and I think scum dont have much else to go on in terms of finding PRs anyway so naturally the claimed PR will be a known quantity to them that they may decide to just deal with right away

[Makhaira]

fred made it to late game last game and has basically given us nothing this game so tbh I think this is the safest play and could hit coasting scum

[AdumbroDeus]

Vote count 1.15
1. Makhaira(0) -
2. EGW(0) -
3. Moody7277(0) -
4. Wam(0) -
5. Sabrar(0) -
6. ahippo(1) - , JC_DADDY25,
7. TehBubblez(4) - Bop, ahippo, madge, TehBubblez
8. Boomfrog(3) - Sabrar, heuristically_alone, EGW
9. Bop(0) -
10. Bessie(0) -
11. Freddino18(6) - LaserGuy, Wam, Moody7277, Bessie, Boomfrog, Makhaira
12. JC_DADDY25(0) -
13. heuristically_alone(0) -
14. Madge(0) -
15. Laserguy(0) -

Not voting: Freddino18

With 15 players alive it takes 8 to eliminate

The deadline is set for Sunday January 20th at 2 am EST.

[EGW]

never said I was opposed to this I agree that competing wagons are good, we are just getting to this stage way too late in the phase

I know, I just wanted to say it. I'm not sure how much others know about concept.

[Makhaira]

Sabrar, the thing with Fred is that we have nothing on which to make a read. And if you read the last game, this could go on the entire game. The last game he was masons with Laser which was the only reason he got away with it.

like this take from bessie this feels town

[EGW]

Doesn't change a thing for me. However if Fred flips scum, I'd reconsider.

[Makhaira]

sab egw and heury I promise I will not give boom a free pass at all next phase if he continues to trend bad to yall I may be willing to sheep there but I think going boom here over fred is just silly

[Makhaira]

Doesn't change a thing for me. However if Fred flips scum, I'd reconsider.

totally fair, Ill remind everyone im terrible at reading bessie

[EGW]

If Sabrar votes Fred, I'll hammer.

[Sabrar]

like this take from bessie this feels town

Disagree. It's NAI.

I'm pretty tunneled on Boomfrog, I feel his response for me voting him was bad.

@LaserGuy: any particular reason why you haven't reacted at all to my sus on you?

[EGW]

I like Sabrar staying on Boom.

[Sabrar]

I'm fine with ending the day half an hour early, there is no movement to be had. I'll switch in 10.

[EGW]

I think we can wait a little bit more.

[Makhaira]

securing 8 on boom sounds like a big reach imo I really dont think we can lock in anyone other than bubblez or fred here

[Makhaira]

heard on bessie thing being NAI tho I wont overweigh it, Im fine with yall hammer to prevent any weird scrambles at end

[EGW]

Mak, if we think Bubbles is town here due to that outburst, who is scum now?

[Sabrar]

I never said I was for sure you were scum,
I was not hardcore going after you at all
Im hardly tunneling you

Just to be on record, I think Mak is underselling himself way too much. This is not a read, just an opportunity for introspection.

Unvote
Vote: Freddino18

[Makhaira]

idk somewhere in wam moody jc bessie bop laser boom heury probably

we just need more info. its a big game, expecting someone to have something go thru tonight that will help us move the ball tomorrow and flips will help. Ive had nothing stronger than hunches really ping today other than WMFM which blew up in a spectacular fashion of getting someone to re-quit the game how fun, love it when that happens just because I was trying to move the ball

[EGW]

I'll hammer in 10 minutes.

[Makhaira]

sab come on I was not casing bubblez like that was not intense pressure at all

[Sabrar]

Just to be on record, I think Mak is underselling himself way too much.

But I agree with him that being able to take a sus is part of the game.