Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D3]

[moody7277]

I figure Mak's stance at the opening of D2 was because he saw Adum as non-town in the published(?) results and figured we had an easy yeet. His role as loudener(?) made it so everyone saw it instead of the PR who used the power.

1)The PR still sees the results, as has been established.

2) If you scum read Mak for pushing Adum, why do you hypothesize that I am scum for stopping the elimination? Is it your view that whether a person defended or pushed Adum, it would make them scum in either case?

3) Why do you not believe it is feasible that town!Mak saw a no kill and not-town result and wanted to elim Adum before scum could suss out PR info?

Of course bessie can distance, it would be an insult to her prowess to say otherwise. She was likely doing that in Dancers with Madge to the extent their joint meta allows. The difference between distancing and bussing would seem to be a tactical vs philosophical line for her.

4) So then why are you town reading bessie for her not bussing? She didn't vote Somi here.

5) Are you paying less attention to this game than usual. And if so why?

1. If it's not in the thread, the PR would have to choose whether to claim the results or not.
2. What makes you think I am scum reading you? In that last T>S list, I have you as neutral because I have no chirping clue how to read you. I could just default to you as town all the time and be right ~75% of the time, but that 25% is a low-risk, high-impact scenario.
3. Your point is that town!Mak would want to speedelim Adum so as not to let scum have a chance to discuss the results? That is getting into deeper tactical waters than I usually consider (i.e. the speedelim of Santy in Dancers).
4. JC also wasn't voting somi end of D2, and it would seem by your point that I should be scumreading everyone bessie didn't vote for. Also, bessie has a history with not voting somi D1, don't know for sure if that privilege extends to D2.
5. I have off days and on days. If you feel like I'm phoning it in, vote for me. Oh wait, you are.

[Seven]

I figure Mak's stance at the opening of D2 was because he saw Adum as non-town in the published(?) results and figured we had an easy yeet. His role as loudener(?) made it so everyone saw it instead of the PR who used the power.

1)The PR still sees the results, as has been established.

2) If you scum read Mak for pushing Adum, why do you hypothesize that I am scum for stopping the elimination? Is it your view that whether a person defended or pushed Adum, it would make them scum in either case?

3) Why do you not believe it is feasible that town!Mak saw a no kill and not-town result and wanted to elim Adum before scum could suss out PR info?

Of course bessie can distance, it would be an insult to her prowess to say otherwise. She was likely doing that in Dancers with Madge to the extent their joint meta allows. The difference between distancing and bussing would seem to be a tactical vs philosophical line for her.

4) So then why are you town reading bessie for her not bussing? She didn't vote Somi here.

5) Are you paying less attention to this game than usual. And if so why?

1. If it's not in the thread, the PR would have to choose whether to claim the results or not.
2. What makes you think I am scum reading you? In that last T>S list, I have you as neutral because I have no chirping clue how to read you. I could just default to you as town all the time and be right ~75% of the time, but that 25% is a low-risk, high-impact scenario.
3. Your point is that town!Mak would want to speedelim Adum so as not to let scum have a chance to discuss the results? That is getting into deeper tactical waters than I usually consider (i.e. the speedelim of Santy in Dancers).
4. JC also wasn't voting somi end of D2, and it would seem by your point that I should be scumreading everyone bessie didn't vote for. Also, bessie has a history with not voting somi D1, don't know for sure if that privilege extends to D2.
5. I have off days and on days. If you feel like I'm phoning it in, vote for me. Oh wait, you are.

2. I'm asking about this:

Alternate sanities for a cop would also be supported by the presence of masons acting as a miller for the chat finder, who might otherwise assume anyone with chat=scum.

Going to assume Adum, Fred, and Thea are town for the purposes of doing the player post-by-posts.

Do you think Seven reveals Adum as green if scum ?

I think, as Seven pointed out, we were also figuring that Adum was the protected NK (maybe 80% likelyhood or so) which would have led to us thinking of Adum as green so that scum!Seven would see no cost to confirming that given after the initial burst SoD we're not likely to elim Adum

4. I'm referring to this:

Did bessie have a meta of not bussing?

Friend, me ignoring that is what won you guys Dancers. If this is the main point in you decoupling Bessie from somi, then I can agree with it; was already grading her at a +1.5 or so anyway.

Why do you agree that it decouples bessie from somi if bessie hasn't voted Somi in this game?

5. I'm not trying to be antagonistic, I'm trying to understand where you are coming from. You seem to be less involved this game, not just today specifically. For example, you haven't done another post-by-post analysis, you haven't considered Mak's reason for why he went guns ablaze on Adum, and you haven't done a post-by-post of me at all. I didn't have many posts when you did them.

[AdumbroDeus]

3) publishing cop is the role, madge thought it's a separate role in the wiki but it's not as far as I can see.

This seems wrong to me. Like, Madge discussing a role or giving out this information to the person that doesn’t have the role. It seems like a breach of Mod duty that I wouldn’t expect her to make. And I know Sabrar wouldn’t.

I disagree on whether it's a breach of mod duty, but you may be onto something that given their stringent anti-hypothetical stance it MAY be inconsistent and suggest he's lying. I genuinely don't know to what end at this point but worth checking out.

Adum will you quit talking about being yeeted? I have a town result on you so I can’t let that happen.

But don't you know I'm a Godfather/ninja/cyborg/half-angel/half-demon/dragonkin!

But, I have stopped, I don't see it happening but with Mak and Seven's clarifications, I don't think there's anything useful to exchange for it anyway. And I can't make it happen anyway it seems.

Question, what's your sanity gonna be this night phase? N3 I mean.

See above. Hmm, we’ll see what excuse Wam can come up with for roleblocking me.

Appreciated.

Bessie, I think you cop either Wam or Adum tonight. The first is useful for determining multiball, and the second is just flat-out hilarious.

I don’t think it would be that funny. But copping Wam might be interesting for you and I, and for Thea. Because if wam is scum, that would call his town result of Thea into question.

It would be a terrible idea, but honestly it would be hilarious.

Pre-post edit, my mod-confirmed role is "Publishing Cop".

Ok seriously?

*Adds post-game gripes list*


Unrelated, but would you mind looking over my exchange with Thea?

[AdumbroDeus]

I meant to add a ping to seven in the above post but eh.

I asked you about this before, but to reiterate, Wam claims that they got an answer that "publishing cop" is the rolename. Could you verify that you can also get the same information?

[Seven]

I meant to add a ping to seven in the above post but eh.

I asked you about this before, but to reiterate, Wam claims that they got an answer that "publishing cop" is the rolename. Could you verify that you can also get the same information?

I already asked the mods 4 questions and I’m too shy to ask a 5th.

[AdumbroDeus]

I meant to add a ping to seven in the above post but eh.

I asked you about this before, but to reiterate, Wam claims that they got an answer that "publishing cop" is the rolename. Could you verify that you can also get the same information?

I already asked the mods 4 questions and I’m too shy to ask a 5th.

Puweeeaaaase?

*Pleading sparkly eyes*

[Freddino18]

But don't you know I'm a Godfather/ninja/cyborg/half-angel/half-demon/dragonkin!

Laser-ass pumpkin*

[moody7277]

2. I was only going with the premise of Santy's question to answer that, it was not a reflection of any actual contemporaneous or current read on you. With your posting volume in other games, I've come to the impression that my usual method for developing a read on you would be very difficult, regardless of your actual volume in this game.

4. So from the Bessie anti-bussing policy, we get the statement "if Bessie votes for someone, then they are not aligned". You are wondering about the inverse of that, "if Bessie does not vote for someone, then they are aligned", which does not necessarily have the same truth value as the original statement, but can. It could be that she only warranted a +1 based on the other parts of a read on her, but I still don't think she's votable.

5. Some games I can sink my teeth into better than others (I haven't done any Gojoe posts); that I'm not this game is likely a gross disservice to Madge.