Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D2]

[Wam]

Fascinating. Somi and bessie are both mafia. Somi crumbed bessie’s role before bessie crumbed it herself. Somi was setting up a safe claim to say that he role copped bessie.

Targeting Mak doesn’t make any sense since he said at end of D1 that he crumbed it.

But how do you know bessies role

Realised that's a stupid question the answer is above. I'm crap at crumbing and spotting crumbs. Hint please?

[AdumbroDeus]

Fascinating. Somi and bessie are both mafia. Somi crumbed bessie’s role before bessie crumbed it herself. Somi was setting up a safe claim to say that he role copped bessie.

Targeting Mak doesn’t make any sense since he said at end of D1 that he crumbed it.

Explain.

And if this is correct (or your variation) I hope you're as good at picking out my crumbs when I need you to!

*Remembers last Halloween's "crumbs"*

[somitomi]

Also yes, I'm aware of the crumb, I'm not usually great at catching them. That's why I picked Mak

[AdumbroDeus]

little more than 50 minutes til deadline

Honestly, I'm kind of riveted and I want Seven to reveal their hand and I'll switch to Somi to secure an elim if necessary

[Seven]

FOS everyone that voted for the worst.

FOS Fred for all the reasons I have previously stated.

FOS Thea for popping in to save Fred, but not returning to confirm that you have mod verified information that he is town.

That is a lot of fingers for a puppy, aren't you a little paranoid?

Somi crumbing bessie's role.

That is a lot of fingers for a puppy, aren't you a little paranoid?

No, just introverted, cocky, insane, and tired, I've had one hell of a day.

bessie crumbing her role.

Hey Bessie, would you mind explaining if your read of me changed between your last word/grrr list and if so when and why.

Particularly I'd like to know if this happened based on things that happened last game day, between the beginning of D2 and my entrance, and between my entrance and now along with the rationale.

Ok. At the time I made my list, I was unsure of you because I disagreed with your read of Theallieza, and I was considering that your reads of her were forced, and that you were looking for a reason to read her negatively [pre-post edit, refer to my BoomGambit analysis for meta on this]. Towards the day I felt a little better about you because of your interactions with me. You tend to be the town leader in every game I have played with you, so sorting you is of primary importance. I spent a lot of time N1 thinking about you because I needed to be sure you could be trusted. Call me crazy, but from what I have read since the start of D2, I now feel very strongly that you are town.

bessie crumbing her role again. There's also a few other moments where she agreed with my regarding my speculations about the Insane Cop and that they are informed about being Insane, but I don't feel like searching for those.

Bessie is Insane Publisher Cop. Adum was a scum read at the end of D1 so she investigated him. Somi came into today crumbing the role before bessie gave any indication of this. When I picked up on bessie's crumb later, I inferred Somi was role cop.

[AdumbroDeus]

could we get a vote count?

[Freddino18]

My partner is back and all that's happening is role collection and speculation

[AdumbroDeus]

FOS everyone that voted for the worst.

FOS Fred for all the reasons I have previously stated.

FOS Thea for popping in to save Fred, but not returning to confirm that you have mod verified information that he is town.

That is a lot of fingers for a puppy, aren't you a little paranoid?

Somi crumbing bessie's role.

That is a lot of fingers for a puppy, aren't you a little paranoid?

No, just introverted, cocky, insane, and tired, I've had one hell of a day.

bessie crumbing her role.

Hey Bessie, would you mind explaining if your read of me changed between your last word/grrr list and if so when and why.

Particularly I'd like to know if this happened based on things that happened last game day, between the beginning of D2 and my entrance, and between my entrance and now along with the rationale.

Ok. At the time I made my list, I was unsure of you because I disagreed with your read of Theallieza, and I was considering that your reads of her were forced, and that you were looking for a reason to read her negatively [pre-post edit, refer to my BoomGambit analysis for meta on this]. Towards the day I felt a little better about you because of your interactions with me. You tend to be the town leader in every game I have played with you, so sorting you is of primary importance. I spent a lot of time N1 thinking about you because I needed to be sure you could be trusted. Call me crazy, but from what I have read since the start of D2, I now feel very strongly that you are town.

bessie crumbing her role again. There's also a few other moments where she agreed with my regarding my speculations about the Insane Cop and that they are informed about being Insane, but I don't feel like searching for those.

Bessie is Insane Publisher Cop. Adum was a scum read at the end of D1 so she investigated him. Somi came into today crumbing the role before bessie gave any indication of this. When I picked up on bessie's crumb later, I inferred Somi was role cop.

The immediate concern I have with that is that Bessy is both bad at crumbing AND avoids it.

[Seven]

No votes since Sabrar's last count.

Votals:
Wam - 5 - Bessie, Santygrass, Adum, moody, somi
somi - 5 - Thea, Seven, wam, Makhaira, Fred
Santy - 1 - JC

11 players alive and 7 to hammer

[somitomi]

Bessie is Insane Publisher Cop. Adum was a scum read at the end of D1 so she investigated him. Somi came into today crumbing the role before bessie gave any indication of this. When I picked up on bessie's crumb later, I inferred Somi was role cop.

You know those moments when you use the wrong equation and your math is wrong but you somehow get the right result? This is one of those moments

[AdumbroDeus]

Bessie is Insane Publisher Cop. Adum was a scum read at the end of D1 so she investigated him. Somi came into today crumbing the role before bessie gave any indication of this. When I picked up on bessie's crumb later, I inferred Somi was role cop.

You know those moments when you use the wrong equation and your math is wrong but you somehow get the right result? This is one of those moments

Omg lol

[Seven]

Bessie is Insane Publisher Cop. Adum was a scum read at the end of D1 so she investigated him. Somi came into today crumbing the role before bessie gave any indication of this. When I picked up on bessie's crumb later, I inferred Somi was role cop.

You know those moments when you use the wrong equation and your math is wrong but you somehow get the right result? This is one of those moments

That's wild. I kind of believe you though.

[Theallieza]

FOS everyone that voted for the worst.

FOS Fred for all the reasons I have previously stated.

FOS Thea for popping in to save Fred, but not returning to confirm that you have mod verified information that he is town.

That is a lot of fingers for a puppy, aren't you a little paranoid?

Somi crumbing bessie's role.

That is a lot of fingers for a puppy, aren't you a little paranoid?

No, just introverted, cocky, insane, and tired, I've had one hell of a day.

bessie crumbing her role.

Hey Bessie, would you mind explaining if your read of me changed between your last word/grrr list and if so when and why.

Particularly I'd like to know if this happened based on things that happened last game day, between the beginning of D2 and my entrance, and between my entrance and now along with the rationale.

Ok. At the time I made my list, I was unsure of you because I disagreed with your read of Theallieza, and I was considering that your reads of her were forced, and that you were looking for a reason to read her negatively [pre-post edit, refer to my BoomGambit analysis for meta on this]. Towards the day I felt a little better about you because of your interactions with me. You tend to be the town leader in every game I have played with you, so sorting you is of primary importance. I spent a lot of time N1 thinking about you because I needed to be sure you could be trusted. Call me crazy, but from what I have read since the start of D2, I now feel very strongly that you are town.

bessie crumbing her role again. There's also a few other moments where she agreed with my regarding my speculations about the Insane Cop and that they are informed about being Insane, but I don't feel like searching for those.

Bessie is Insane Publisher Cop. Adum was a scum read at the end of D1 so she investigated him. Somi came into today crumbing the role before bessie gave any indication of this. When I picked up on bessie's crumb later, I inferred Somi was role cop.

Why do you think bessie is mafia as a result?

[somitomi]

The immediate concern I have with that is that Bessy is both bad at crumbing AND avoids it.

Self-meta is inherently garbage, but I'm not good with crumbs either. I may have tried to do them once in my young and carefree days on the old forum

[Seven]

@Thea I'm saying that if somi knew bessie's role, then he could have only known by role copping bessie or being partnered with bessie. But he is claiming to have role copped Mak.

His ID on Mak's role is correct btw. So likewise, he could only know Mak's role if he roll copped Mak or if he is partnered with Mak.

[Theallieza]

So the setup apparently is something like this assuming all claims are roughly true:

Thea - Mason
Fred - Mason
Seven - JoaT 1 (cop on Adum)
Wam - JoaT 2 (watch on Adum)
JC - ?
Moody - ?
Adum - Bulletproof or similar
Santy - Vig or similar
Mak - Motivator
bessie - Insane Publishing Cop
somi - Rolecop

One of JC and moody is a JoaT and the other is backup.

[Sabrar]

Votals:
Wam - 5 - Bessie, Santygrass, Adum, moody, somi
somi - 5 - Thea, Seven, wam, Makhaira, Fred
Santy - 1 - JC

11 players alive and 7 to hammer

38 minutes remain until deadline.

[Seven]

One of JC and moody is a JoaT and the other is backup.

Both roles which we think are scum. Or that I do at least. Do you agree with me about Backup being scum since scum aren't afraid of being targeted by TA?

Vote: moody

[Seven]

@Adum, I have no doubt bessie was crumbing her role in those posts. INTJ mindmeld etc.

[Theallieza]

Vote moody

@Adum, I have no doubt bessie was crumbing her role in those posts. INTJ mindmeld etc.

I agree with this. This is exactly how bessie likes to crumb.

[Wam]

@Adum, I have no doubt bessie was crumbing her role in those posts. INTJ mindmeld etc.

When did you come to this realisation?

[Seven]

@Adum, I have no doubt bessie was crumbing her role in those posts. INTJ mindmeld etc.

When did you come to this realisation?

After she made the introverted, tired, insane post.

[AdumbroDeus]

Wait, why are y'all voting moody? Am I taking crazy pills? Somi just admitted to being mafia and said you used the wrong formula for the right answer?

[Seven]

Wait, why are y'all voting moody? Am I taking crazy pills? Somi just admitted to being mafia and said you used the wrong formula for the right answer?

He's saying I used the wrong formula for figuring out he was role cop.

[somitomi]

Wait, why are y'all voting moody? Am I taking crazy pills? Somi just admitted to being mafia and said you used the wrong formula for the right answer?

Okay for the record no, I was talking about Seven getting my role right

In hindsight I can see how it might read like that though