Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D2]

[JC_DADDY25]

@seven

Based on who Wam thinks you might know him to be, would it be a character that would be considered scum?

Also, do you know what the payout thing does

The flavor isn't tied to alignment. Like how in the last halloween game I was the most evil thing (basilisk) but was town. Wam, the other JOAT, and I ware all Doctor Who.

I still don't know what a basilisk is, but I get what you're saying.

[AdumbroDeus]

Never provoke someone that has a gun JC , now your life could be on the line, so you better pop off

Look I get JC can be annoying to play with, but assuming you're not lying I'm begging you not to just shoot frustrating people. I'm not saying shooting JC would be as bad as say, League of legends mafia but still.

That suggests unpaired and not necessarily town.

Fully agree ! Im not assuming its multiball until there is either proof of it or see not possible solve that isnt multiball. (Also I know that looking at flavour and how game feels is plausible for it to be multiball , but assuming it is, is not the correct play solving wise)

I understand the perspective, I don't agree though. I think we can note things that suggest multiball (not just the flavor) and try solving for options.

[moody7277]

@seven

Based on who Wam thinks you might know him to be, would it be a character that would be considered scum?

Also, do you know what the payout thing does

The flavor isn't tied to alignment. Like how in the last halloween game I was the most evil thing (basilisk) but was town. Wam, the other JOAT, and I ware all Doctor Who.

I still don't know what a basilisk is, but I get what you're saying.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk

[JC_DADDY25]

Never provoke someone that has a gun JC , now your life could be on the line, so you better pop off

Look I get JC can be annoying to play with, but assuming you're not lying I'm begging you not to just shoot frustrating people. I'm not saying shooting JC would be as bad as say, League of legends mafia but still.

That suggests unpaired and not necessarily town.

Fully agree ! Im not assuming its multiball until there is either proof of it or see not possible solve that isnt multiball. (Also I know that looking at flavour and how game feels is plausible for it to be multiball , but assuming it is, is not the correct play solving wise)

I understand the perspective, I don't agree though. I think we can note things that suggest multiball (not just the flavor) and try solving for options.

Just glad you didn't bring up PyP as the example.

[AdumbroDeus]

Given that I was so townread... Eeeeh why is the publishing cop targetting me at all? The cop being so paranoid doesn't make sense here.

I know you're paranoid of me but especially if we're right on multiball I trust you. Thing is, if I'm right you're probably the only person who can both pick up on it and can do something about it.

For the record, I don't think it's likely that you're scum, it's just a possibility. The cop targeted you for the same reason I did. I was town reading you at the end of the day, but knowing for sure vastly makes the game easier. I think you're underestimating how scary the possibility of scum!Adum feels lol. I'll think about your last line some.

I mean, I'm arrogant but to think that my scum game is that legendary among smashboarders that even though my last one was 9 years ago is a little beyond even my self image lol

That said, it's not just that which weirds me out, as I said before.

@seven

Based on who Wam thinks you might know him to be, would it be a character that would be considered scum?

Also, do you know what the payout thing does

The flavor isn't tied to alignment. Like how in the last halloween game I was the most evil thing (basilisk) but was town. Wam, the other JOAT, and I ware all Doctor Who.

Disagree with this. Town was the evil AI, I didn't get the (very obvious *facepalm*) subtext in my role PM and wrongly thought it was a weird claim.

Both in this and last, flavor was really on point and I'd vouch for using it to check at least claims consistency.

Also, I'm a dumbass.

[AdumbroDeus]

So.claim time,

Town JOAT (yep I know).

So I have flavour that says there are 3 JOATs not.going to claim the role name but Seven should know WHO I am. Interestingly any mention of alignment of the 3 JOATs is conspicuously absent from my flabour.

I also am not loud but as a result some.of my one shots are less useful than classic ones.

Last night I used a role watcher power on Adum. Hope being that I would see the kill and have data down the line that if someone claimed RB and I saw RB visit adum its good evidence. I also wanted to keep my more useful.ones for later in the game.

So adum was visited by

Publishing cop
Jack of all trades
Jack of all trades

That doesn't Inclue me!! I checked.

Hence why as soon as I saw the result on adum I voted.

I have questions to answer in thread am working through it along with fleshing out my bessie read.

This totally slipped my mind, what's your flavor claim?

[JC_DADDY25]

The flavor isn't tied to alignment. Like how in the last halloween game I was the most evil thing (basilisk) but was town. Wam, the other JOAT, and I ware all Doctor Who.

I still don't know what a basilisk is, but I get what you're saying.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk

Uhm... thank you. I guess I can wait to yeet you later too.

[AdumbroDeus]

Never provoke someone that has a gun JC , now your life could be on the line, so you better pop off

Look I get JC can be annoying to play with, but assuming you're not lying I'm begging you not to just shoot frustrating people. I'm not saying shooting JC would be as bad as say, League of legends mafia but still.

Fully agree ! Im not assuming its multiball until there is either proof of it or see not possible solve that isnt multiball. (Also I know that looking at flavour and how game feels is plausible for it to be multiball , but assuming it is, is not the correct play solving wise)

I understand the perspective, I don't agree though. I think we can note things that suggest multiball (not just the flavor) and try solving for options.

Just glad you didn't bring up PyP as the example.

Loooool

Trust me dude, PYP wasn't your best work, but your vigging was NOTHING compared to the shitshow in league of legends mafia.

[AdumbroDeus]

Both in this and last, flavor was really on point and I'd vouch for using it to check at least claims consistency.

I meant vouch for using flavor for claims consistency like I did last Halloween because last Halloween's flavor was so consistent.

[Santygrass]

Never provoke someone that has a gun JC , now your life could be on the line, so you better pop off

Look I get JC can be annoying to play with, but assuming you're not lying I'm begging you not to just shoot frustrating people. I'm not saying shooting JC would be as bad as say, League of legends mafia but still.

That suggests unpaired and not necessarily town.

Fully agree ! Im not assuming its multiball until there is either proof of it or see not possible solve that isnt multiball. (Also I know that looking at flavour and how game feels is plausible for it to be multiball , but assuming it is, is not the correct play solving wise)

I understand the perspective, I don't agree though. I think we can note things that suggest multiball (not just the flavor) and try solving for options.

Oh, Im not implying to shoot them because they are frustrating. Moreso that Im openly scumreading them and making it very obvious if they value their life haha~

[Santygrass]

Also, agree to noting things that suggest multiball. Moreso not assuming is the case in regards to yeets before having some sort of big confirmation/big hint. Yeeting someone who would be town in non multiball, but using the 'what if' is what I see as bad

[Seven]

I disagree. Madge has the same philosophy as me as not being able to solve the game through flavor claims. In Stranger Things Halloween for example, town was mixed with villains and good guys. For example, I was Vecna, Somi was Max and we were both town doctors.

[Seven]

Ninjad.

[Santygrass]

So.claim time,

Town JOAT (yep I know).

So I have flavour that says there are 3 JOATs not.going to claim the role name but Seven should know WHO I am. Interestingly any mention of alignment of the 3 JOATs is conspicuously absent from my flabour.

I also am not loud but as a result some.of my one shots are less useful than classic ones.

Last night I used a role watcher power on Adum. Hope being that I would see the kill and have data down the line that if someone claimed RB and I saw RB visit adum its good evidence. I also wanted to keep my more useful.ones for later in the game.

So adum was visited by

Publishing cop
Jack of all trades
Jack of all trades

That doesn't Inclue me!! I checked.

Hence why as soon as I saw the result on adum I voted.

I have questions to answer in thread am working through it along with fleshing out my bessie read.

This totally slipped my mind, what's your flavor claim?

Its a clear implication of the 3 JOATs being Doctor Who flavor related there (hence why the Seven call out with the Who in all caps)

[Santygrass]

@theallieza any reads or thoughts update?

You were up to date with thread when Wam claimed, but still havent provided anything else in a good while

[JC_DADDY25]

Oh, Im not implying to shoot them because they are frustrating. Moreso that Im openly scumreading them and making it very obvious if they value their life haha~

Why did you holster last night?

[Santygrass]

Oh, Im not implying to shoot them because they are frustrating. Moreso that Im openly scumreading them and making it very obvious if they value their life haha~

Why did you holster last night?

A secret makes a woman, woman

[AdumbroDeus]

So.claim time,

Town JOAT (yep I know).

So I have flavour that says there are 3 JOATs not.going to claim the role name but Seven should know WHO I am. Interestingly any mention of alignment of the 3 JOATs is conspicuously absent from my flabour.

I also am not loud but as a result some.of my one shots are less useful than classic ones.

Last night I used a role watcher power on Adum. Hope being that I would see the kill and have data down the line that if someone claimed RB and I saw RB visit adum its good evidence. I also wanted to keep my more useful.ones for later in the game.

So adum was visited by

Publishing cop
Jack of all trades
Jack of all trades

That doesn't Inclue me!! I checked.

Hence why as soon as I saw the result on adum I voted.

I have questions to answer in thread am working through it along with fleshing out my bessie read.

This totally slipped my mind, what's your flavor claim?

Its a clear implication of the 3 JOATs being Doctor Who flavor related there (hence why the Seven call out with the Who in all caps)

Ya, I get that, but given they're probably the yeet they should full claim.

[Santygrass]

(There's no benefit of me clarifying more about my role usage/intentions/potential details at this moment so I won't)

[JC_DADDY25]

I'm not asking you to tell me anything about your role.

[Santygrass]

Yes you are hahahaha

[Freddino18]

Never provoke someone that has a gun JC , now your life could be on the line, so you better pop off

CHOOT 'EM BUBBA

[JC_DADDY25]

Well, it's not intentional. Was just curious why you keep running your mouth about taking someone out, only to have tucked your tail last night phase

[Santygrass]

I'm Old Joe from Looper. I am a mason with Fred, as I've said, who is confirmed Town in my PM, and we have a private chat. We both each also have a (different) one-shot loud power that neither of us used last night. I'm not sure that there's any benefit to revealing the details on that at this stage.

I am James Cole, I am a town Mason with Thea, and I have an unused one-shot loud non-kill night ability

You don't have to go into detail, but are there any other restrictions on your abilities? I just need a yes or no.

No.

I have similar feelings about Seven who I felt of all people in this game should have had a reasonable idea of what I was attempting to do and why.

I understood what you were doing. Can you point to what gave you the impression that I didn't? I also very much enjoyed it, particularly because it was clear what you were saying. Do you believe you should have been town read for it?

Not necessarily, but I don't think I did anything that would reasonably warrant a strong scum read either. As I said to Santy, I don't think scumreading me in and of itself is a problem, it's how and why those reads came about.

A lot of people were asking me about JC, which, IDK, he has seemed more coherent and solid than any game I have ever seen him in, so I felt that was worth a Town lean. It's possible that he is similar to Wam in that the quality of his posting improves as scum, but it was enough for a start.

These were the posts JC had made at the point you put him as a town lean:

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Well hello there.

I can already tell this is going to be a fun game. So much activity already.

I think the question should be how long is Thea going to keep this up?

If you're not able to empathize with someone who thought it was peculiar that you were town leaning him from these, that is more on you I think.

I guess. I do vibe reads on very little in D1 all the time. As I said to Adum, I'll concede this was probably not an optimal strategy for me as a whole..

That being said, I will lay out my role and speculation since several people are asking for clarification.

Btw, if you are lying about your result here and Adum is mafia I will be very upset. Unless you're both mafia, in which case, well done.

Town
Thea
Fred
Mak
Seven
Adum
JC
Somi
Moody
Bessie
Santy
Wam
Scum

Wam at the bottom of Thea list

[Santygrass]

Vote bessie

Kind of vaguely feeling Bessie/Santy/JC?

Traveling for the next few days so posting will be sporadic.

But then they vote bessie with Wam, also vote based on almost nothing