Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D2]

[Makhaira]

bessie is just scum and im just less cynical about JC despite me getting off to an awful start with him, I am in fact capable of self reflection I know its hard to believe

[Seven]

like seven seriously same to you, you cannot tell me you take town!fred in melo over town!thea with a straight face

I wouldn't necessarily take one or the other. Town!Fred will have the solve by D3, but Thea is more balanced overall.

[Seven]

seven just flip fred and when its red you wont have to be so paranoid and live in a fun world where me you and JC are all town and get along =)

no pocket I pinky promise double super secret no backsies with a cherry on top

I'm not going to stop a Fred elim, but I would prefer Thea. Since it's plurality, I don't think you need me. Also, I'm surprised that Santy alluding to being vig didn't stand out to you.

[Makhaira]

seven just flip fred and when its red you wont have to be so paranoid and live in a fun world where me you and JC are all town and get along =)

no pocket I pinky promise double super secret no backsies with a cherry on top

I'm not going to stop a Fred elim, but I would prefer Thea. Since it's plurality, I don't think you need me. Also, I'm surprised that Santy alluding to being vig didn't stand out to you.

I unironically did not catch a vig crumb so hold my hand here

if you are going to bed before deadline you should swap to fred to make sure it happens, if no one else turns up and we get stuck with no elim there will be so much baby rage between santy and me next phase you will hate it

[Makhaira]

Votals:
the worst - 4 (wam, somi, thea, mak)
Fred - 2 (moody, santy)
Thea - 3 (adum, the worst, Seven)

Not voting: Bessie, Fred, JC


With 12 players alive it's 7 votes to hammer.

Deadline for D1 will be 4 PM China time, 3 AM US eastern, 8 AM UTC, all on the 5th of November. That is approximately four hours from now.

See countdown: https://www.tickcounter.com/countdown/6 ... -countdown

Going off the above:

Votals:
the worst - 3 (wam, somi, thea)
Fred - 2 (moody, santy, mak)
Thea - 3 (adum, the worst, Seven)

Im pretty sure Im the only vote that moved, from worst to fred, since this quoted votecount

basically just reposting this on current page for visibility for any latecomers

[Makhaira]

seven when I hold my hand I mean please ELI5 but blind trust me like we used to say that in the old says on smashboards lol I completely forgot thats loaded terminology, then again that was more "take my hand"

[Makhaira]

when I say* "hold my hand"

[Makhaira]

jfc I forgot to update the numbers, it should be a three way tie rn:

Votals:
the worst - 3 (wam, somi, thea)
Fred - 3 (moody, santy, mak)
Thea - 3 (adum, the worst, Seven)

[Seven]

And you still havent provided a reason on your confident wam scumread Seven btw btw btw

I will just soft that I might be able to kill you in the night even if you are not elimmed Today. and you are not giving me reasons to not just murder you

Just making sure I leave it stated the sus on thea for them to be questioned tonorrow. Same on Seven the Wam read/sus is probably fake and they should be held accountable bang bang

@Mak

[AdumbroDeus]

I think the scum team is bessie/Thea/Mak, potentially JC instead of Mak.

Por qué?

And what changed your mind on Wam? What made you think Wam was scum before?

Previous reasons for voting suspecting Wam:
-Asking me about the solve on the first page seemed tonally off. I actually disagree with your reason for suspecting it. I do think it's something that town!Wam would have asked me after the way I entered the game. My entrance was tonally different from how I entered PYP. It's more about the tone to me. Wam is much more gusto as scum than he is as town, and his getting right into the scum hunting is more indicative of scum!Wam.
-Following Santy's vote on Thea seemed like he was just trying to be consistent with his answer to you. [link]
-He took the worst's aura thing way too seriously and misinterpreted it.
-The line about Santy pocketing him was tonally off.

I've changed my mind after rereading because
-Mak, bessie, and thea are more suspicious.
-The offvibes I was getting from Wam are explainable if he and Santy are neighbors/Masons.
-Upon rereading, I like that he switched votes soon after sheeping Santy. That sort of vote hopping is more town indicative to me.

Regarding Mak/bessie/Thea (Sub: JC)
-For Mak the reads here give me the vibe like they are more meant to position things in the game. Particularly the conservative read on Santy, the generic stiffness regarding your play, and the besse/thea reads. Regarding the former two, I think you and Santy are pretty strongly towny and I think scum are more likely to be reluctant in acknowledging that, in order to keep options open. Regarding the bessie/thea, it's a rather convoluted take. I wouldn't be surprised if at least one or both of them is/are his partners. The thing that really sticks out like a red flag though is his JC read. It's a huge deviation from how Mak has read JC in the past, and I don't think JC has warranted that degree of being town read.

-bessie's content has been very fluffy and she has said some things that are in alignment with my secret scum-bessie meta. I also am having a hard time believing her response to you in her most recent daily bark here.

-Thea is suspicious to me for similar reasons, as the above: her read on Santy and JC don't seem warranted. I get the same positional vibe as I do with Mak's reads.

-JC is actually playing alright so far, just not to the extent that the above three have expressed. I really only have him as a sub because the way these three are reading him is peculiar.

Thanks, I want to chew on this.

One thing though, Mak was absolutely right I was stiff and just correctly identified the reason.

I also want to hold off thoughts on Bessie til she responds to me.

[Makhaira]

seven when I hold my hand I mean please ELI5 but blind trust me like we used to say that in the old says on smashboards lol I completely forgot thats loaded terminology, then again that was more "take my hand"

just doing EBWOP sorry I hate multitasking:

"seven when I say* hold my hand I mean please ELI5, NOT* blind trust me like we used to say that in the old says on smashboards lol I completely forgot thats loaded terminology, then again that was more "take my hand"

[bessie]

Your woof/grrr list was based on reactions to Madge not doing confirmation posts and reactions to your reactions. It even included the mods on the bottom.

Yes, you posted one but trying to use this against an accusation of filler content is disingenuous.

Like you said, my Woof-Grr list is based on player content and reactions. I don’t expect you to see the same things that I see in the first two pages, because I was looking for content related to and posted for me, and was deliberately posted for my reactions. I did get useful information from who commented, what they commented on, and who didn’t. Read my list more carefully and ignore Sabrar and Madge, and ignore the worst and Makhaira since they hadn’t posted and are the neutral line.

No, you have volume, consolidated into a few posts. You lack substance, as in substance for the game. I enjoyed talking Joyce with you, but it's not actually game relevant.

Oh we have not yet even begun to discuss Joyce, if you ever wish to continue the conversation.

Ok, tell me specifically WHY Thea townreads me and explain how their reaction quote conveys that.

Which reaction quote? Or do you mean her reads list?

What in specific about their reaction to the backlas did you like?

That she was unfazed.

[Makhaira]

And you still havent provided a reason on your confident wam scumread Seven btw btw btw

I will just soft that I might be able to kill you in the night even if you are not elimmed Today. and you are not giving me reasons to not just murder you

Just making sure I leave it stated the sus on thea for them to be questioned tonorrow. Same on Seven the Wam read/sus is probably fake and they should be held accountable bang bang

@Mak

wow im dumb

fine let scum NK santy and reduce the swing /shrug I dont think scum!santy makes themselves more conspicuous this way

[bessie]

-bessie's content has been very fluffy and she has said some things that are in alignment with my secret scum-bessie meta. I also am having a hard time believing her response to you in her most recent daily bark here.

Noting this for reasons!


Vote: Fred


I will be around but I’m voting now in case I fall asleep as I’m tired.

[Makhaira]

it is actually doubly embarrassing that I missed that considering I was town vig in the offsite game I just got done playing in so I should be extra sensitive to vig claims LOL wow ok I totally get why you suss me jfc thats a ball drop

[Makhaira]

if fred flips red here I will actually be able to confidently townread bessie for a game this will be wild, I dont think scum!bessie busses here ever with three tied slots

[Makhaira]

LOL NOW SEVEN GONNA THINK ITS ME AND BESSIE AGAIN HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA WHAT AM I DOING

[madge]

Votals:
the worst - 3 (wam, somi, thea)
Fred - 4 (moody, santy, mak, Bessie)
Thea - 3 (adum, the worst, Seven)

Not voting: Fred, JC


With 12 players alive it's 7 votes to hammer.

Deadline for D1 will be 4 PM China time, 3 AM US eastern, 8 AM UTC, all on the 5th of November. That is approximately two and a half hours from now.

See countdown: https://www.tickcounter.com/countdown/6 ... -countdown

[AdumbroDeus]

Your woof/grrr list was based on reactions to Madge not doing confirmation posts and reactions to your reactions. It even included the mods on the bottom.

Yes, you posted one but trying to use this against an accusation of filler content is disingenuous.

Like you said, my Woof-Grr list is based on player content and reactions. I don’t expect you to see the same things that I see in the first two pages, because I was looking for content related to and posted for me, and was deliberately posted for my reactions. I did get useful information from who commented, what they commented on, and who didn’t. Read my list more carefully and ignore Sabrar and Madge, and ignore the worst and Makhaira since they hadn’t posted and are the neutral line.

Bessie, trying to claim it's serious content when it has me laughing about your reaction to Madge not having confirmations as "acknowledging Madge's scummieness" and has moody as possible scum with Madge for ignoring confirmations just makes my brain itch.

Why are you trying to claim it's serious when you could just... Do content now? I don't get your thought process here.

No, you have volume, consolidated into a few posts. You lack substance, as in substance for the game. I enjoyed talking Joyce with you, but it's not actually game relevant.

Oh we have not yet even begun to discuss Joyce, if you ever wish to continue the conversation.

Obviously! But I think we've gotten past when we can talk about it in thread!

Ok, tell me specifically WHY Thea townreads me and explain how their reaction quote conveys that.

Which reaction quote? Or do you mean her reads list?

Yep, this one specifically:

I seek the finest and the bravest knights in the land to join me in my court at Camelot.

I get that it's a townread and it suggests I'm bold, but if you're reading complex thoughts from it, please explain why and how.

I also think that this runs counter to your estimation here, which I frankly largely agree with, but I don't see the reactions as particularly AI which means it's a null now with no promise of improving.

Could you explain which reactions you mean?

[AdumbroDeus]

And specifically why you found them townie obviously.

[JC_DADDY25]

I'm going to be around until EoD, so I'll place my vote closer to then. Right now, I'm leaning Fred unless convinced otherwise.

[AdumbroDeus]

Welp, no Fredd so I'll explain.

First this post: https://ramenchef.net/nxf/viewtopic.php?p=78645#p78645

Note he said Madge was storming his DMs, but didn't say he actually talked with her there.

Now look at his confirm post, note the timing;https://ramenchef.net/nxf/viewtopic.php?p=78545#p78545

Sat Nov 02, 2024 1:59 am

Now look at Gojoe (all refers to non-spoilered and therefore public info), he has a post at Sat Nov 02, 2024 12:36 am that asks for Madge's reading and response.

At Sat Nov 02, 2024 1:42 am, 18 minutes before Fredd's confirm post, Madge makes a post that asks Fredd to read.

So we know Madge communicated with him right before he claimed to read his role PM, both adding credibility to him not reading it before and that it was communicating with Madge that made him finally read it, not scumbuddies.

That it was a Gojoe communication was why I was asking for confirmation about where he talked with Madge. Why not just respond to the DMs? Could've been in response to the role PM. I was hoping to confirm this before revealing my thought process but too late in day.

Anyway that's what I think their story is credible and at the very least it wasn't their scumbuddies messaging them that made them read their role PM.

[AdumbroDeus]

Anyway it doesn't look like people are around for it to matter. I plan on being up late and if it's still obvious I'll throw a vote on Fredd to make sure somebody doesn't tie up the votes last minute.

[Makhaira]

I very selfishly want adum and fred to just vote fred now and lock it in so I can go to bed early without worrying about random last second pop in nonsense

not too worried either way tho, I probably have atleast another hour in me before I crash

[Makhaira]

adum and JC*