Halloween 2024: The Time Travellers' Party [D2]

[the worst]

Why Thea and not Fred in your opinion?

I just don't remember anything from Fred. I actually think Thea is playing performatively. I can go Fred too but it's just kind of a "sure why not" thing - I don't feel like anyone is all that enthusiastic either

I ask, because as of last vote count your vote is on Fred and he is at one less vote than you while Thea has no votes. I understand it was a self preservation vote, but the Wam vote is out there and you're suggesting Thea...I feel like we need more than just why not as a reason.

I understand, it was as a temperature check as much as anything else. It's hard to give a case because there just isn't much to work with. I wonder if Seven feels the same about Wam tbh.

[the worst]

Do we have hood claims? I haven't been paying quite enough attention lol

[moody7277]

Do we have hood claims? I haven't been paying quite enough attention lol

You're going to have to translate the jargon for me.

[Santygrass]

Do we have hood claims? I haven't been paying quite enough attention lol

We dont

[Seven]

Do we have hood claims? I haven't been paying quite enough attention lol

Santy and Wam are playing neighbor-like and some other non-distinct things have given me the impression of outside communication among the crew.

[the worst]

Do we have hood claims? I haven't been paying quite enough attention lol

You're going to have to translate the jargon for me.

Claims of people being in neighbourhoods basically

[the worst]

Does the santy/wam dynamic play into your scumread?

[Seven]

I will elaborate on my somi & Wam reads before going to sleep ~

For somi, I dont have much meta, just the slight infer of how their scumgame kinda looks like from the game I subbed in. And gth I dont think somi has much confidence in his scum tone or is able to naturally post with good cadence. As if, as scum I would imagine is much a struggle, not a noticeable one though, but from gamestate perspective I felt the ratio of posts good, and liked the *intention* or direction some posts seemed to have.

Can you browse Somi's ISO in that last year's Halloween game and let me know if you still have the same impression?

[AdumbroDeus]

We have just a bit less than 6 hours, non-voting people should vote

I'm not seeing any movement on Wam and it doesn't look like it, so I'll table the slot for now.

Vote: Thea

I don't want either of the two other slots on the table ATM and Thea is just a non-entity, I think we can swing to this.

[AdumbroDeus]

Oh ya, I'll do my best to be here but I'm out with friends and my husband right now. Should be home before EOD though.

[Seven]

unvote

Vote the worst

You would only be worried about bessie aura reading you if your aura is scummy

unvote

And that ends my personal RVS, YMMV. Guess I'll have to hunker down and try to squeeze something out for reads. Plus I don't know if the worst has played with bessie enough to know she doesn't do those as she declared in Dancers.

Why did you end RVS here and not when Santy voted Thea?

[moody7277]

It's kind of a loose tradition not to double up on RVs.

[Seven]

I see. The bolded here are incorrect btw:

JC-- interested in Thea's post restriction (NAI), asks Thea about her read of him. +0.5


somi-- asks Santy about multiball, concurs with Seven on wincon phrasing, asks Thea about post restriction, distrust of Seven (and so it begins), likes Adum. +1

[Santygrass]

I see. The bolded here are incorrect btw:

JC-- interested in Thea's post restriction (NAI), asks Thea about her read of him. +0.5


somi-- asks Santy about multiball, concurs with Seven on wincon phrasing, asks Thea about post restriction, distrust of Seven (and so it begins), likes Adum. +1

I think its a typo . Its correct if you replace thea with myself

[Santygrass]

I will elaborate on my somi & Wam reads before going to sleep ~

For somi, I dont have much meta, just the slight infer of how their scumgame kinda looks like from the game I subbed in. And gth I dont think somi has much confidence in his scum tone or is able to naturally post with good cadence. As if, as scum I would imagine is much a struggle, not a noticeable one though, but from gamestate perspective I felt the ratio of posts good, and liked the *intention* or direction some posts seemed to have.

Can you browse Somi's ISO in that last year's Halloween game and let me know if you still have the same impression?

Also, dont think is something Im going to do rn, but could compromise to do later on if Im still alive.

[the worst]

I think voting for anyone but Fred at this point is, in practice, a vote for me.

[the worst]

That said I'm on Thea if we get a couple more votes tbf lol

[Santygrass]

Vote: Thea

Contingency still killing Seven atm

[the worst]

vote: thea

i trust

[bessie]

Daily bark starting from my last post! The amount of content more than doubled overnight so I will do a quick read and respond to stuff that stands out to me.

So Fred is claiming that he had not read his role yet before that confirmation post, but he had a profile picture that he says he usually uses as a breadcrumb to his role that he had changed prior to his first post. Confirmed by his post on regards to making sure it wasn't directly tied by the title to what his actual intent was...

This puts into words some thoughts I hadn’t quite articulated in my mind for the negative points I assigned Fred in my last post. I find Fred’s content scummy.
I like this post by JC. In general, I like his thought process and approach to solving the game

Bessie posting almost all filler is suss and thea seeming to have a positive reaction to her first post that actually provides slivers of reads set off scum pings for me but that would be strangely obvious buddying for the slot, maybe scum!thea trying to pocket bessie? Or maybe I'm not parsing these quotes correctly

Not true. I posted a Woof-Grr list with reasons. Have you done the same?

Helpful tip: If it's funny, I do it. Absolutely cackling last game.

It would be more helpful if you post an ordered town-scum list with reasons.

Bessie - neutral
There is very little content by bessies usual standards.

I agree that I have less content than usual. I disagree that it is “very little”. Did you even read my content, or did you just count the number of posts I made?

Bessie: Their engagement in the game lacks substance. The only things that's come of it with scum hunting significance was the freddino conversation which frankly was purely by accident and "why not respectful?". Willing to elim out of nullness.

I disagree that my content lacks substance. My content lacks volume; you are confusing the two.

Should be fred or wurst today, I'm fine with bessie but I'm not sure she will be as popular a pick. Interested to see if fred comes thru with a decent alternative case before deadline

Can you give your reasons as to why you support my elimination? Like, can you point to anything I have said that you would consider scummy?

And by "iterative" re: Thea, what I meant was I wanted to see if this was a passive full time restriction, a passive part time restrict (e.g. even/odd day restriction or D1 only restriction) or if it was a 3rd party imposing the restrictions and whether it would move. Tho Theas most recent post now makes me things it's not a restrictions at all and rather a voluntary bit given the content in parentheses

Read the opening post. There are no posting restrictions. I pointed out in my reads list that Thea is doing this for fun, and that I approve.

Thea: null, I'm sympathetic to Santy's argument that it's play that would help scum more than town, but given it's not only not a one off and consistent after drew suspicion I think it's some type of Seven like play with some specific benefit intended from it.

Still, if it's gonna continue and they don't find a way to use it to express more nuanced game specific context they're just a burden on the game and should be yeeted.

I disagree with this. Thea’s intent is understandable to those willing to read her content with an open mind. I think this is a lazy read and I think the issue you have with it is either (1) a manufactured issue, or (2) it differs from what you are used to seeing, and you are having trouble processing it so your reaction is negative.

bessie: How long do we have to wait before we know if the miracle works?

All things are ready, if our mind be so.
Henry V, Act 4 Scene 3

i think bessie is cooking but i think jokes aside, her posts could go either way. she is responding to a lot of things and doing the bessie thing [tm]. she's clearly still winding up but we haven't seen her reads like, develop in a particularly noteworthy direction yet. she could either be posting because (1) posting well is her playstyle, and she's prioritising appealing to others (prioritising surviving over solving); or (2) because she's not totally warmed up yet. i really can't call which one it is but a bunch of y'all are townreading bessie for reasons i can't grapple with. if you're town please check yourself on whether you're being lazy here or otherwise just, like, look for two or three things in bessie's posts which you think are actually hard to fake as mafia. she is good at playing both alignments. we don't have to yeet bessie d1, i think that's a terrible idea, but please do not half-ass your read on her, she is far too competent.

I like this read. I agree with much of it. You have zoned in on some old xkcd meta and I don’t have time to go in to it right now, but will if you think it is necessary to your read on me.

critically:
- bessie is wonderful and i wouldn't change her for anything in the world
- this was a response to people taking a joke too seriously without wanting to like, dunk on people for taking a joke too seriously

1. I like you too.
2. And I have been taking notes.

i have no detail to offer. it was 3/4 joke and that was me expanding on it.

if you're not following i can like, phrase it another way, but that's literally as deep as it gets.

If you being scared of bessie was a joke I don't see why you didn't just say that instead of giving an apparently serious answer as to why you'd be scared if you were town.

Negative points to somi for this response.

Dont buy this read on me in the slightlest , or the read on wam. They didnt interact or tried to call out wam on something not even once.

Feels like thea is spending more time looking at vague quotes that could mean anything that actually solving . Im okay with posting in particular ways , but its perfectly achievable to do so while providing content or see a particular solving headspace. Im seeing none of that with Thea here

Disagree. But I see why you think this.

In regards to Bessie, she always seems town to me in her pays, but one thing I noticed is the content she posts. In this last game it tended to be a little different since it was harder for her to give actual reads when she was making them up, since she didn't want to clear anyone completely while she was scum.

So far, this seems to be trending in the same direction as far as content goes.

It's day 1, so we'll see where it goes, but something to keep an eye on.

I read the game content and comment on things that I find interesting, and on things that ping me. I play the same way in every game, regardless of my alignment. More than half the content in this game was posted while I was at work today, and I don’t play at work.

can we go thea if nobody is rly sure who to yeet?

No.


I'm still here but I'm still catching up with today's posts.

[the worst]

I don't think old meta will help much sadly. I think I just need to take my time on forming reads on you, if I'm not confident - I think this is one of those games

[bessie]

Tentative reads list.

Woof
bessie
JC
Theallieza
The worst
Wam
Santygrass
moody
Makhaira
Adum
somitomi
Seven
Fred
Grr


Seven has been sick so I will update if he posts more content tonight.
Fred is my strongest scum read.

[Santygrass]

Can you elaborate in your thea townread bessie?

[Seven]

Tentative reads list.

Woof
bessie
JC
Theallieza
The worst
Wam
Santygrass
moody
Makhaira
Adum
somitomi
Seven
Fred
Grr


Seven has been sick so I will update if he posts more content tonight.
Fred is my strongest scum read.

Please explain these.

[madge]

oh my god instead of clicking "post" i clicked "refresh" so I had to count the votals AGAIN won't anyone think of your poor mod and how she suffers

when the game's moving fast i think we'd all appreciate unofficial votals every page or so, but all good, this is literally my one job lol




Votals:
the worst - 4 (wam, somi, thea, mak)
Fred - 1 (moody)
wam - 1 (Seven)
Thea - 3 (adum, santy, the worst)

Not voting: Bessie, Fred, JC


With 12 players alive it's 7 votes to hammer.

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