Are we human or are we dancer mafia (game over, Dancers win!)

[Wam]

https://ramenchef.net/nxf/viewtopic.php?p=75070#p75070

@ santy

Will do in bessie but will be tomorrow (real day not game day)

[Seven]

Sorry I’m typing in bed and didn’t flesh that thought out fully.

Santy and Moody are mafia in both worlds (Santy, Moody, JC) or (Santy, Moody, bessie). So we need to eliminate the odd one out (JC or bessie) to determine which is the correct worldview.

If its going to be between Bessie and I, go ahead and take me out. I'm pretty sure we're both town and she's a better player than me, so she'd have a better chance of proving a solve than I would.

For what it's worth, my role PM also says I'm VT since we're kind of mass claiming.

I disagree with this assessment. You have different strengths and weaknesses. Bessie is stronger early and mid game, you are stronger in end game. Mak disparages you for your vig shots in PYP, but my dude, we were playing against Swiss, Fonti, and Sabrar—one of the strongest scum teams possible. I've mentioned a couple of times now how you brought home the town victory in final 3 in the first game we played together. Bessie is A+ class player bordering S class, but her weakness lies in situations like that. She has difficulty reevaluating, so if scum plays in a manner that is consistent with her predefined view of how town should play, they will slip past. In the aforementioned F3, on the other hand, you were able to suss out the scummer that was highly town read up to that point.

In terms of proving a solve, as you put it, you come out ahead. Bessie doesn't make cases or theorize. You made an argument here yesterday that I found to be well thought out. The premise (that Seven is mafia) happened to be wrong, but the logic stemming from that premise was reasonable.

Can you answer the following three questions?

1) Do you believe Wam is town based on his claim or otherwise?
2) Do you believe his results are legitimate / non-manipulated?
3) Do you agree with the town slips from Madge and Fred? If not, which steps in the reasoning do you think either of them falls apart?

Currently, I think you have the information necessary to solve much of the game. The advantage you have is that you know you are town, whereas the rest of us would have to flip you in order to know your alignment. If your conclusion is the same as mine for the above three questions, you're closer to the solve than any of us.

[Seven]

@everyone: did anyone receive some sort of night action result on N1?

Prediction: Madge slipping that she was vanilla was misdirection and she is in fact Amnesiac Cop

[Seven]

While I'm on the topic, you all should know that Santy is an S-Class player. He mentioned that we were in champs final together—there's a reason for it.

[Freddino18]

9ne

Usually my finger slips from o to 0

[Freddino18]

I have a soft spot for good subs

Thea can be bribed with sandwiches, noted.

[Freddino18]

Amnesiac Cop

For the peanut gallery, what is that?

[moody7277]

I think it would be useful to see the remaining players claim: Moody, bessie, madge, Fred.

Might as well cross bessie off that list, cause she ain't doing it.

[Seven]

I think it would be useful to see the remaining players claim: Moody, bessie, madge, Fred.

Might as well cross bessie off that list, cause she ain't doing it.

So what are you?

[Seven]

Amnesiac Cop

For the peanut gallery, what is that?

It’s a Cop that sends their result to a random person rather than receiving it themselves.

[moody7277]

Vanilla town.

[Seven]

@Thea what do you think of Madge’s slip in the world where Wam is scum

[Santygrass]

Actually, I'd consider it essential that we get a full claim from everyone today.

Why?

[Santygrass]

While I'm on the topic, you all should know that Santy is an S-Class player. He mentioned that we were in champs final together—there's a reason for it.

To be fair, I do think I ended up in finale because I randed wolf in finale while most people didnt know I was a good wolf by then. At that time my town game was more weak , but I have gotten better (or at least I want to believe that) , and have been like, a pretty elite streak of town games, so sheep me hmmyes. Unless Im wrong :wowee:

[Santygrass]

@Thea what do you think of Madge’s slip in the world where Wam is scum

How likely do you think Wam can be scum? I kinda have them as more clear than their admitted clears rn haha.

Like, the benefit of scum claiming the clears I could only see it if one of you/thea is also scum. thea wasnt sussed at all so there was no need to shield them or play that
In my mind it could maybe make sense if they are scum with you and decided to do a very weird play to get sus out of you , which is super unlikely. And if you're town I dont see a reason at all to claim the clears . Just makes it more likely that a partner gets yeeted, and then they cant explain why they are alive after cop claiming tbh

[Santygrass]

Is anyone keeping of the votecount at the moment?

@Seven gambiting time is over, so you will have to explain to me your sus on bessie and why did you select them to point fingers at

[Santygrass]

I'm not willing to vote JC, but I'll vote any in my bottom three. It's unordered btw.

For reference, this is from D1 .

Why werent you willing to vote JC on D1 seven?

[Seven]

I'm not willing to vote JC, but I'll vote any in my bottom three. It's unordered btw.

For reference, this is from D1 .

Why werent you willing to vote JC on D1 seven?

Why do you ask? Do you not believe I am cleared?

Also I answered your question about the Glue progression, correct? I can't remember if that was real life or not.

[moody7277]

Is anyone keeping of the votecount at the moment?

My unofficial vote count:

bessie (2): Seven, Fred
Seven (2): bessie, JC
Fred (1): moody7277
JC (2): Santy, wam
moody7277 (1): Thea

not voting: Madge

[Santygrass]

I'm not willing to vote JC, but I'll vote any in my bottom three. It's unordered btw.

For reference, this is from D1 .

Why werent you willing to vote JC on D1 seven?

Why do you ask? Do you not believe I am cleared?

Also I answered your question about the Glue progression, correct? I can't remember if that was real life or not.

I'll go and relook cuz I think not haha.

I see no reason not to ask tbh. Is more insight on your JC read, a slot I think is a wolf and you seem to town in a weird way (sussing other slots and try boosting them, while not stating why you believe they are town)

[Santygrass]

Is anyone keeping of the votecount at the moment?

My unofficial vote count:

bessie (2): Seven, Fred
Seven (2): bessie, JC
Fred (1): moody7277
JC (2): Santy, wam
moody7277 (1): Thea

not voting: Madge

Nice, tytyty .

Can I ask @bessie @Jc_Daddy @Madge to vote on a viable wagon? The checked slot is not happening today so I would like to see wagons on PoE slots be more discussed/focused

[Seven]

For reference, this is from D1 .

Why werent you willing to vote JC on D1 seven?

Why do you ask? Do you not believe I am cleared?

Also I answered your question about the Glue progression, correct? I can't remember if that was real life or not.

I'll go and relook cuz I think not haha.

I see no reason not to ask tbh. Is more insight on your JC read, a slot I think is a wolf and you seem to town in a weird way (sussing other slots and try boosting them, while not stating why you believe they are town)

JC is a crapshoot Day 1 because he plays the same regardless of alignment. I wanted to yeet someone that had more than a rand chance of being scum.

[Seven]

Also I answered your question about the Glue progression, correct? I can't remember if that was real life or not.

I'll go and relook cuz I think not haha.

Weirdd. I could have sworn I answered but I can't find it either. To answer, in the two games I've played with Glue I found him towny almost immediately. I didn't pick up on any towny emissions here and thought he had a good shot of being a hit.

[Santygrass]

EoD1 Voting Progression ~ For Bookmarking
Impressions later ahoy

5 - Gluelock: Moody7277, Seven, Wan, Somitomi, EGW
3 - moody7277: Theallieza, Makhaira, Gluelock
1 - Seven: Freddino18
1 - JC_DADDY25: madge

Vote count 9

5 - Gluelock: Moody7277, Seven, Wan, Somitomi, EGW
2 - moody7277: Theallieza, Gluelock
2 - JC_DADDY25: madge, Heuristically_Alone
1 - heuristically_alone: Mak
1 - Seven : Freddino18

2 - Not voting: Bessie, JC_DADDY25

Vote count 10

5 - Gluelock : Moody7277, Seven, Wan, Somitomi, EGW
3 - moody7277: Theallieza, Gluelock, madge
1 - Seven : Freddino18
1 - Freddino18 - 1: Bessie
1 - heuristically_alone: Mak
1 - JC_DADDY25: Heuristically_Alone


1 - Not voting: JC_DADDY25

Vote count 11

5 - Gluelock: Moody7277, Seven, Wan, Somitomi, EGW
3 - heuristically_alone: Mak, Bessie, Theallieza
2 - moody7277: Gluelock, madge
1 - Seven : Freddino18
1 - JC_DADDY25: Heuristically_Alone


1 - Not voting: JC_DADDY25

Vote count 12
5 - heuristically_alone: Mak, Bessie, Theallieza, moody7277, madge
4 - Gluelock: Seven, Wan, Somitomi, EGW
1 - Seven: Freddino18
1 - moody7277: Gluelock
1 - JC_DADDY25: Heuristically_Alone

1 - Not voting: JC_DADDY25

Vote count 13
5 - heuristically_alone : Mak, Bessie, Theallieza, moody7277, madge
5 - Gluelock: Seven, Wan, Somitomi, EGW,JC__Daddy
1 - Seven: Freddino18
1 - moody7277: Gluelock
1 - JC_DADDY25: Heuristically_Alone

Vote count Final
7 - Gluelock: Wan, Somitomi, EGW,JC__Daddy, moody7277, seven, Makhaira
3 - heuristically_alone: Bessie, Theallieza, madge
1 - Seven: Freddino18
1 - moody7277: Gluelock
1 - JC_DADDY25: Heuristically_Alone

[Santygrass]

Vote count 10

5 - Gluelock : Moody7277, Seven, Wan, Somitomi, EGW
3 - moody7277: Theallieza, Gluelock, madge
1 - Seven : Freddino18
1 - Freddino18 - 1: Bessie
1 - heuristically_alone: Mak
1 - JC_DADDY25: Heuristically_Alone


1 - Not voting: JC_DADDY25

Currently debating the following:
What is the team doing here in scum!moody worlds?