Pick Your Poison Mafia (Day 2)

[Swiss]

I'm not eliminating Wam when he's not here. Yeet bessie. Good info.

Why?

I’m still interested in an answer to this question. Swiss, are you? Will you push Seven to answer?

I feel like a nighty schoolboy here. But sure - Zen answer me.

He's also not responded to anything I've been saying.

[Swiss]

In an ideal world - Zen who would you yeet?
Boom - who would you yeet
Madge - who would you yeet
Fonyt - who would you yeet

You, since all you're doing is commenting on stuff but not actually doing anything.

Oh hello.

Bold statement when you're ignoring the questions asked.

Other reads please - specifically on Boom.

Why does yeeting vengeful not matter when it's infinitely better to vig them?

[Seven]

In an ideal world - Zen who would you yeet?
Boom - who would you yeet
Madge - who would you yeet
Fonyt - who would you yeet

You, since all you're doing is commenting on stuff but not actually doing anything.

Oh hello.

Bold statement when you're ignoring the questions asked.

Other reads please - specifically on Boom.

Why does yeeting vengeful not matter when it's infinitely better to vig them?

I don't put my fate in the hands of someone that shot fred/mak

[Seven]

Other reads please - specifically on Boom.

Read.

[Swiss]

JC Sabrar do something please.

I've reread everything with potential skim toDay because apparently I missed some Zen/Booms stuff.
But don't think my reads have really changed. I think Zen is vengeful.

I want to sus boom, he has a lot of variance. Some of what he says is extremely similar to what I would have posted - other stuff feels scummy. I don't know.

Reads list is same as my 'gut' reads earlier.

Though I realise increasingly I have no real opinion on madge and font.

[Seven]

@JC thoughts on Swiss?

[Swiss]

This is the current timeline we're on. I'm not quite sure how to change it. I was really relying on the universe where LaserGuy replaced in and didn't get himself killed. That would have shifted the balance a bit.

Boom - Vengeful
Fonti - Rolecop
bessie - Goon

D2
Boom (5) - Madge, Fonti, Swiss, Sabrar, bessie
Fonti (3) - Boom, JC, Seven

Boom eliminated. Mafia kills Sabrar and Madge(?)

D3
Seven (3) - Fonti, bessie, Swiss
Fonti (2) - Seven, JC

Endgame

Are these your reads, or is this one potential scenario

[Swiss]

You and Madge trying to make it seem like you can get anything out of Laser’s death is silly.

Trying to determine what laser did is silly and a waste of time.

moody's highest town read was bessie (+4). Probably who he [LASER] targeted.

I can't reconcile this

Respond Zen

I'm not eliminating Wam when he's not here. Yeet bessie. Good info.

What info would you have got?

Respond Zen

[Seven]

You and Madge trying to make it seem like you can get anything out of Laser’s death is silly.

Trying to determine what laser did is silly and a waste of time.

moody's highest town read was bessie (+4). Probably who he [LASER] targeted.

I can't reconcile this

Respond Zen

I'm not eliminating Wam when he's not here. Yeet bessie. Good info.

What info would you have got?

Respond Zen

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[EGW]

Votecount 2.11

1. Boomfrog
2. Swiss
3. Madge
4. Seven
5. JC
6. Fonti
7. bessie
8. Sabrar

Not voting:
Boomfrog, Swiss, Madge, Seven, JC, Fonti, Bessie, Sabrar

Important Links:
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Notes:
N/A

With 8 players, it takes 5 votes to eliminate.

The deadline for Day 2 is Friday December 15th at 11:59PM EST

[Seven]

Not sure who pit the Laser in brackets. I was talking about moody

[Swiss]

I did. Laser/Moody is the same slot.

How is it that you can say "it's impossible to know what that slot did" and then later say "they probably targeted bessie"

[Seven]

I did. Laser/Moody is the same slot.

How is it that you can say "it's impossible to know what that slot did" and then later say "they probably targeted bessie"

I wanted to see how it impacted Madge's assessment.

[Swiss]

So which is your real opinion.

You can't tell what the slot did, or they probably targeted bessie?

[Seven]

So which is your real opinion.

You can't tell what the slot did, or they probably targeted bessie?

Can't tell, they probably targeted bessie.

[Seven]

Oh. I’m so used to manipulating people into doing what I want that I forget that I can just say what I want.

I'll say this now but it's not just about this quote.

None of you seem to understand how mindgamey and games within games the old forum was. If you guys are playing chequers now, we played harry potter 3d irl chess (when it's their actual lives on the line in Philosophers stone). I used to fucking confirm my actual alignment every game in my confirmation post every game until people realised I was *really* doing it. Wifom within wifom. Zen lived and breathed this with us, and was amongst our best players.

Zen has repeatedly talked about how great he is this game. About how the 'mastermind' won this same game last time. He's talked about scum are playing it the way he would etc

He's gloating about the win before the win. And his attitude has become more and more 'dgamesy' toDay now that we're on the ropes. I hate it.
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This is such a specifically paranoid thought I want to think it's real.

[Sabrar]

And I didn't think he faked the 'town slip' you identified. I thought that scum wam would say the same thing naturally because scum probably didn't talk about fake claiming strategy yet. So I didn't think it was alignment indicative.

No, that's the opposite of what you said initially:

Or this could just be scum wam but really thinking that far ahead, which would be typical.

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Who would you have yeeted D1 from the options at deadline?

Do you mean from your inital list of 4 or the options available at deadline? With or without the knowledge of the eod scramble?
I would have probably still yeeted moody, the only reason the wagon turned away from him was his acceptance of his fate but you should know from Crossover that scum!moody can also just be tired of the fight and give up.

And can I get a read list from you? You've been keeping your cards close to your chest.

I think I've been fairly open with my suspicions. I don't claim to have a solve but I'm pretty sure you're scum. You're showing the same kind of inconsistencies that allowed me to catch you in Animal Kingdom.
I think Seven might be your buddy. The way she talks to you while suspecting you're scum is jarring and I don't believe their hypothesis that scum came into today with the purpose of bussing. Vig being alive makes that plan too dangerous.

If I'm right with the above then bessie being scum with either of you does not make sense.
Swiss is trying to solve, for now I don't think it's him
fonti being the third would be the biggest scum-theater the world has ever seen, after yeeting one of you and Vig potentially shooting the other you are putting all your eggs into one basket. I'm not ruling it out completely but it's unlikely.
JC has very little content and I don't see how people can claim that it's alignment-indicative. He provided good explanations when questioned but other than that nothing struck me as anything noteworthy.
madge sussing both of you and then switching to me is very convenient if she's the last. Also I keep coming back to the possible connection I observed with her and Seven.

[Seven]

And I didn't think he faked the 'town slip' you identified. I thought that scum wam would say the same thing naturally because scum probably didn't talk about fake claiming strategy yet. So I didn't think it was alignment indicative.

No, that's the opposite of what you said initially:

Or this could just be scum wam but really thinking that far ahead, which would be typical.

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Who would you have yeeted D1 from the options at deadline?

Do you mean from your inital list of 4 or the options available at deadline? With or without the knowledge of the eod scramble?
I would have probably still yeeted moody, the only reason the wagon turned away from him was his acceptance of his fate but you should know from Crossover that scum!moody can also just be tired of the fight and give up.

And can I get a read list from you? You've been keeping your cards close to your chest.

I think I've been fairly open with my suspicions. I don't claim to have a solve but I'm pretty sure you're scum. You're showing the same kind of inconsistencies that allowed me to catch you in Animal Kingdom.
I think Seven might be your buddy. The way she talks to you while suspecting you're scum is jarring and I don't believe their hypothesis that scum came into today with the purpose of bussing. Vig being alive makes that plan too dangerous.

If I'm right with the above then bessie being scum with either of you does not make sense.
Swiss is trying to solve, for now I don't think it's him
fonti being the third would be the biggest scum-theater the world has ever seen, after yeeting one of you and Vig potentially shooting the other you are putting all your eggs into one basket. I'm not ruling it out completely but it's unlikely.
JC has very little content and I don't see how people can claim that it's alignment-indicative. He provided good explanations when questioned but other than that nothing struck me as anything noteworthy.
madge sussing both of you and then switching to me is very convenient if she's the last. Also I keep coming back to the possible connection I observed with her and Seven.

Where has swiss been solving that you don't feel is easily faked

[Sabrar]

Where has swiss been solving that you don't feel is easily faked

I never said that I had the feeling it couldn't be faked. It just looks natural to me at the moment.

[Seven]

Where has swiss been solving that you don't feel is easily faked

I never said that I had the feeling it couldn't be faked. It just looks natural to me at the moment.

What's example of something that's natural (i.e not simply faked)

[Sabrar]

I don't know, why don't you tell me? You're mashing those qualitatives together again, those are not the same.

[boomfrog]

And I didn't think he faked the 'town slip' you identified. I thought that scum wam would say the same thing naturally because scum probably didn't talk about fake claiming strategy yet. So I didn't think it was alignment indicative.

No, that's the opposite of what you said initially:

Or this could just be scum wam but really thinking that far ahead, which would be typical.

Wtf sabrar? The very next post:

EBWOP: wam Not* really

So now that the opposite of the basis of your theory is true will you change your opinion? Or are you just looking for evidence that fits your conclusion?

I think I've been fairly open with my suspicions. I don't claim to have a solve but I'm pretty sure you're scum. You're showing the same kind of inconsistencies that allowed me to catch you in Animal Kingdom.

My only inconsistency was using moody as an example of a town slip when he didn't make one. But that's just indicative of my limited RL time for the game, what possible scum motivation would I have for changing my story there?

It's MYLO, you need a full team theory at least. We have a yeet and a vig, we should be trying to assess everyone but you are laser focused on me. And your conclusion has been evident from your first question so I'm wondering if everything is just performative.

[boomfrog]

@fonti: can you provide a reads list please?

[boomfrog]

mod pred JC please

[boomfrog]

@madge: I'm considering worlds where you are town and if so we need to vote together as a block. I like your sabrar theory, do you have any other reads that aren't based on speaker for the dead?

What has stuck out to you this game? Just please type up what you are thinking because I do not have enough content from you to judge well.