HaiLOWEEN 2023: AI apocalypse

[AdumbroDeus]

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I thought BF was my frog

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[AdumbroDeus]

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Actually a little surprised I wasn't "visited" last night, wasn't expecting to survive the night phase tbh lol

You may have been guarded by BoomFrog. He recognized that you were a leader, and if town, a good one

Thanks, I appreciate it!

Even though given I couldn't even lynch myself, I'm just loud not a leader.

Also, I'm 99% sure Seven's read of the BG BC is accurate and he died protecting gluelock.

@Bessie congrats on finally being able to vote somi without feeling guilty about it?

It is D2 so I have no personal restrictions on eliminations.

That's the joke lol. Also that was supposed to be an exclamation point

FWIW, Seven considers bussing super suboptimal and almost never does it.

Hari Seldon bussed Peaceful Whale in Newbie New Year.

thanks for the info.

Bluntly I don't think these points work well together and I think you've convinced yourself of Bessie scum and are working backwards to justify it,

Can you not think of another reason for Seven’s behavior?

I just don't agree with his, this reads like you two tunneling each other and giving each other more material with each bad argument.

I'll do an apology dance too if I'm wrong. And I'll do one for Seven if I'm wrong on you.

Apologies for being a bit scatterbrained, pet medical emergency

I hope all is well.
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More later.

So far so good, she's resting now. I ended up calling out of my first shift of work to take care of her and my BF left work early.

He's with her and I'm here now.

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[Seven]

I keep reading BF as BoomFrog.

bessie is town

[EGW]

That's exactly my question though, in this LaserGuy+Moody universe why does Zeniba, who's on the other team go straight for moody's neck?

Of that, I am not sure.

[EGW]

You don't say the above without explicit intent to indicate who your target was

I think I remember him saying the same thing about a newbie in an old game on Smash Boards.

[EGW]

I will try to get to this later.

Thank you, I do think it is important.

[EGW]

bessie is town

I never agreed with your setup god point because it made sense to me that Bessie felt like she didn't realize that you could have been a traitor when I brought the quote up to her and asked her about it.

[EGW]

What is BC?

You know that I was not expecting you to have an avatar that I didn't even realize it was you that posted. Good choice.

[EGW]

This discussion looks like the theory is scum were trying for a combo shot if they recognized the BC to get to BF if they targeted Gluelock.

What are your reads today?

[AdumbroDeus]

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I keep reading BF as BoomFrog.

bessie is town

I agree but, what changed your mind?

Inb4: "adum is too well informed"

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[AdumbroDeus]

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Also, I promise I'm not dating Boomfrog");

[Seven]

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I keep reading BF as BoomFrog.

bessie is town

I agree but, what changed your mind?

Inb4: "adum is too well informed"

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It was just a thought experiment, essentially.

[Seven]

My reads are pretty much the same as they were at the end of yesterday:

Zeniba

JC
Makhaira

Adum

EGW

Somitomi
LaserGuy

Gluelock
Moody
Bessie/heury

Seven
Boom

[Seven]

JC: Yeah, his "if y'all think it will help go ahead and yeet me but I'm flipping green" was a towny moment, but the rest of his play is a stark contrast to his town play to me. I also just skimmed through his scum game and the differences I'm noting are the same there.

Mak: Again, misreading Zeniba's moody quotes as Zeniba's thoughts. The fact that he said that he liked her posting her thoughts is the scummy bit. Shows his reading of her wasn't authentic, he just saw big post and said oh I can say I like that.

Adum: One thing I forgot to mention in my initial thoughts on Adum is I feel he is playing differently than in sorcerers 11. Far more cautious. Getting everything in order before making a vote rather than vote and solve at the same time. This meta difference is the only reason why I'm gut reading him tbh. And I guess that point on scum!Boom not having any reason to defend heury when he did.

EGW: I 100% believe that EGW thought I was a traitor, so I don't think he's mafia, not even in a 2-2 scenario. Yet his play is still so odd. If the game were still going if the 4 above were eliminated and we end up finding out it's not 2-2, I'd aim here as possible Indy. For a comparison game, take a look at Stellaris Mafia where he was Indy there.

Somi seems fine. Wait Somi, can you go into detail about why EGW was your strongest town read???

Laser I'm just slightly suspicious of because it seems like he should have had a stronger town read of me yesterday. Seemed like he was playing things close to the fence. Everything else is good though.

Everyone else is obvtown.

[Seven]

Vote: Makhaira

[Seven]

heury - has owned more cats than dogs

And he’s the handsomest player in this group.

You remembered

I swear I've seen these three lines before (in another game), but I can't remember where.

[heuristically_alone]

Maybe I'm nitpicking here, but just looking at this linguistically, your first two statements,

1. Yeah.... There were definitely 2 kill actions taken last night. Or do you think the doctor's action is always public?
2. Zeniba is definitely not a lone human, as mod clarified they were scum, not SK.

These both have very confident language being repeated. You're definitely sure there were 2 kill actions, and you're definitely sure theres more than 1 human.

Compare that to:

3. Yes. My role pm says I'm town, and not human or scum

This is lacking that confidence exuding jargon from your first two statements. Why not "My role pm says I'm definitely town, and not human or scum."? Ironically, you should be the most confident about this; the other two are reliant on conjecture but you ought to know your assigned role. Normally, I wouldn't even think about something like this, but it's a pattern that is really standing out to me. Does anyone else think I'm just grasping at straws here or is there some unconscious linguistic tell at play here?

*Raises hand* I think you're grasping at straws. My role pm doesn't say I'm definitely town. It says I'm town. The adverb I used was to emphasize disagreement when I drew what I thought to be (and still believe) an obvious conclusion which was the opposite of what you believed.

? I can confirm that whatever message you received isn't mine. If you think you're reading a BC of me flavor copping Heury, you're wrong. I think they're Zeniba's scummate because of their play around the slot.

And by playing around the slot so you mean sheeping Laser's town read on freddino?

BC = bread crumb

Yes exactly what moody said, I think the doctor is simply loud, which means their target is always announced whether they saved them or not. Theres no indication anywhere that boom frog was shot at twice. Hed still be alive even if that happened.

Does the doctor usually override a bodyguard dying when the body guards protected the target?

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Also, I promise I'm not dating Boomfrog");

Lies. I won't believe until the flip

End of D1 I was scum leaning seven, but kinda wanting to out them town. Reading their gameplay is like watching some puzzlemaker give a piece here and there and theere is more continuity as the game goes on and the reads actually make sense, even if I dont agree with every read.

[heuristically_alone]

I still have a feeling that seven doesn't care about the outcome of the game, and I have no clue if that's alignment indicative.

[EGW]

Laser I'm just slightly suspicious of because it seems like he should have had a stronger town read of me yesterday. Seemed like he was playing things close to the fence. Everything else is good though.

I feel like you are missing the intent of his entire play here, but only noticing a glimpse of it. Notice how Laser simply votes me today without any questioning or reasoning. It feels the same as when he voted Bessie. There's no actual intent to solve. Plus again, there is the lack of confidence from him. Tell me again, why you town read Laser?

[heuristically_alone]

I believe town laser would vote without dropping any reasoning and probably have a page long word doc somewhere with the reasoning in detail. Albeit, laserguy hasn't won a town read this game from me yet.

[Seven]

I still have a feeling that seven doesn't care about the outcome of the game, and I have no clue if that's alignment indicative.

Of course I do, what makes you think otherwise?

[Seven]

Laser I'm just slightly suspicious of because it seems like he should have had a stronger town read of me yesterday. Seemed like he was playing things close to the fence. Everything else is good though.

I feel like you are missing the intent of his entire play here, but only noticing a glimpse of it. Notice how Laser simply votes me today without any questioning or reasoning. It feels the same as when he voted Bessie. There's no actual intent to solve. Plus again, there is the lack of confidence from him. Tell me again, why you town read Laser?

hmm Ill think about it

[LaserGuy]

I figured it's been long enough that that cliche belongs to everyone now. Bessie read: +4.

Kind of want to soul read moody and heury as Town.

LaserGuy, I'm curious why you gave Moody a soul read as town this early.

Tone/vibe read on his opening posts.

[LaserGuy]

I did receive a message implying that heury is human.

Vote: heury

Heury, claim.

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[LaserGuy]

Bessie seems like shes straight up open wolfing to me. That post where she was encouraging George’s traitor theory. Heury being top town read.

Only thing is, i dont think she would ever kill Glue night 1. Unless on a team with someone who is insistent and objective (detached) enough to make the kill.

Theory: bessie and Adum (dissenters) vs heury and Zeniba (humans)

I took the wording of Boom being protected as he was shielded, not that he was saved. The difference being that the latter implies that he was shielded + targeted. @mods if we are supposed to know, can you tell us which you mean here?

You think that the heury/bessie stuff was all just coincidence?